There is no counter play to mages if you cant ever reach them

Not saying dk isn’t strong against mage but they got a blink for every grip and they can unblink and also alter. Plus all the rng roots, nova, blast wave and dragonsbreath. Oh ring, I knew I was forgetting something.

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you said buff me?

warriors have it rly bad into mages rn

snares should have DR or we need precog for snares

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“but hunters, hurr durr”

yea

game balance is built around mages, rogues, druids and warriors

every single other class is always multiple patches, seasons or expansions behind

or is simply a support class for those specs

and warlock is the only eternal brick that can oppose them

I remember back when Ice Lance was announced and I got flamed for saying giving Mages an instant-cast spammable spell was a bad idea.

Then it was released and they’ve been trying to balance it one way or another ever since.

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meh honestly not really, Frost is the only glaringly over-tuned spec currently other than maybe Affliction but at least you can kill them

Why is a caster that able to spam that many instant dong that much damage though.

Instant’s as a caster shouldn’t be doing what casted spells should be doing unless it’s a class extremely weak on the defense end.

Actually is almost like the devs took fire mages spam gameplay during combustion and gave that to frost and not taking into account frost snare/freeze in place control.

Funny enough arcane had that sort of gameplay in the beginning in beta.

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:joy:

I have a feeling you wear a red hat.

You still can’t list the infinite damage for fire and arcane, because you just like to use hyperbolic statements, just like the red hatters.

“you must be a warrior”

What counter frost mages in the same level/opression as a frost mage counter a warrior?

I’ll only accept this argument when someone answer this question properly.

Usually it’s a generic answer like “MM hunter” but Mage frost has 90% uptime vs hunter, which in itself refutes this fallacy.

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Would you accept MM hunter, especially if they have the openor?

Sub Rogues?

Feral Druids?

UH DK?

I only say, because I don’t have the skillset to beat them properly in open world pvp.

Mage has 80% to 90%+ damage uptime vs all those classes.

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I guess just me then. I think I just gotta switch to frost for that then, because of the random frostbite and oppressive slows.

What changes do you want

I guess the response to this is.

What classes do warrior give the same level/oppression to as mage does to warrior?

The cycle of life is tough Broxikor when you run into that bigger fish

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uhh actually trying to think of one rn

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RemindMe! 1 day

Warriors aren’t known for being fast thinkers. Don’t give yourself an aneurysm thinking too hard now.

only thing that warrior oppresses are really bad warlocks who don’t know how to press port

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priests? asde

Priests don’t take damage

Nothing quite the same atm because frost is overtuned, but ele and mm smash mage in a pretty similar way