I don’t need to see random kids with 400 games in the 1800s raging because they think they’re better than someone.
I’mma gonna break this down for you.
No, it’s not true. They have people brains. Because they’re people. People are different than monkeys. Get it?
How do I ego anyone, when I rarely speak except to make general callouts? Lol. I don’t debate with ragers. I just ignore. You’ve created a fiction where someone says, “Everyone take Farm!” and the other people in the BG all go, “TRY HARD LOL” and start spinning in circles and emoting /flop. But it’s just fiction.
Just as many people would argue the toxicity and aggressive BG communication does more damage than silence, or minimal communication. Nothing about not typing in a BG reduces my skill. In fact, probably be smarter to use those fingers for Riptides and Ice Lances than, “omg why is no one listening”.
I do totally agree that PvP doesn’t get enough love. I even agree with your frustration that a part of the community doesn’t TRY. It’s a toxic mentality to go into a blitz with the intent to basically AFK, or to try so little that the rest of your team is disadvantaged. But this is NOT common and, as I said earlier, these people are NOT the type of people to read a forum post and be swayed into more effort.
But again, I’m not the one with the issue about people in blitz. My only issue, if any, is that I found it EXTREMELY funny and hypocritical that someone would blast other people’s behavior in PvP while simultaneously mocking the entire community as monkeys.
To be fair, if this was 15 years ago, I’d probably be even more toxic. I definitely posted some intense cringe once or twice a long, long time ago.
And probably today too.
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Okay, I stand corrected.
There is exactly one monkey brain in the pvp community. And it’s me for thinking your goldfish brain could handle my mammalian communication.
You uh.
You realize monkeys are mammals too yeah?
Yup. May want to re-read it.
I called myself the monkey. And my communication mammalian. Because monkeys are mammals.
Some of the comments on this post show why some people would be inclined to ignore or turn off chat in battlegrounds.
Regardless of the back and forth debate, the answer for the OP and anyone else is quite simple. Make a RBG or arena team. That way you can require chat or even voice communications and you get to be the leader.
If you play a random or solo mode, don’t be surprised when other people don’t play up to your personal standards.
And one other thing, if you are getting matched with “monkey brains” it’s because the game thinks you and them are playing roughly equally. Think about that next time before insulting your teammates.
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When you queue for BGB, you need to accept winning is completely out of your control. You could have teammates who have no idea what is going on or do actions that amount to purposely throwing the game. Most players can’t make up for others who are playing poorly. Just accept that and try not to get mad.
Example: Deepwind gorge this morning. Other team wins market, and then 5 players on my team get spun by their 2 heals and a tank class on the other team. 3 vs 5 and we never cap it, but instead of going elsewhere, the 5 just keep getting spun. The rest of us can’t do anything, and are outnumbered at other nodes. Just take a deep breath and go again.
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How are accusations of gameplay sabotage handled.
What is the policy?
I don’t know. I imagine it’s harder to investigate since with a chat infraction a GM can literally pull up the log and see what was said, but behavior stuff would be harder to investigate.
So I don’t know.
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What do you think the payroll necessary to hire an invisible observer would be?
What impact do you think that would have in enforcing the terms in PVP?
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Depends on the company. Anywhere from 16-25/hour if all they were doing was observing PvP. So probably 60-80k/year all in per person. Probably just need to start with 1 who reports to someone on whatever sort of PvP dev team they have.
They’d be responsible for setting punishments, determining culpability (1 person on a team? 2? All of them deliberately benefits? Do other people know and just enjoy riding the train, but don’t actually intend on cheating themselves. Is there a different under that context?) and perhaps interacting with the community.
Less obnoxious behavior.
You don’t have to ban all the cheaters. You just have to convince them there’s a risk. Most of them will stop after a few bans, a few time outs, a few removals of ranking or gear are handed out in a way that actually impacts a player.
(For instance, removing honor gear, or banning someone for a day does NOTHING.)
PvP community becomes less toxic, speaks more highly of PvP, ideally more PvP starts to happen among casual players. Get a more robust community, with more voices.
Maybe it changes nothing. Maybe Blizzard says, “Hey, we actually hired someone, they investigated over 7000 reports of win trading and found less than 1.2% of them to be accurate. Experiment closed, it’s not a major issue, gitgud.”
Which would still be progress.
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It would take a person of patience and humor to oversee realtime PVP.
They literally could not feed themselves on $25 an hour living where Blizzard is unless they want like a 2+ hour commute each way.
People really underestimate the cost of living where Blizzard’s headquarters are.
Even if they could somehow work from home for this, I’d want them paid $40 an hour easy. It’s an important job with a lot of responsibility, you want the people who are doing it to be dedicated to the work and to stick around after the 6+ months of training it would require.
You can try to tell me what to do but i’m gonna play how i want to.
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Oh, please don’t mistake those pay ranges for what they SHOULD make.
I’m saying it’s what Blizzard would pay them, in my mind. They wildly underpay, they’re notorious for it. But that was actually a pretty educated guess based off pay they’ve offered for other jobs and then assuming they’d lowball for what, to them, would amount to close to entry level.
There are too many people who’d jump at a job like this for their pay to ever approach something truly competitive for it, and they’d know that.
I feel somehow singled out by the back peddling ret comment lol.
Just experienced a prot warr who did this exact thing. We told him to go market with a healer so we could spin, but the very intelligent gamer decided to sit shrine solo all game, resulting in the healer heading up there solo dolo and dying to 2 people.
Whole team was telling him to go mid and leader + me were whispering him trying to get him to go mid. Nope just sits shrine all game resulting in an L.
Whole team reported him for disruption but lets be real he’ll get 0 punishment
Playing bad is not a punishable offense. Now if he typed in chat at all with any form of lol or like such, then they can do something because its acknowledging their actions. This is what a GM told me in a ticket last season.
That’s when you adjust your strategy around the player.
I mean I’m not defending him, but sitting solo at shrine is itself not gameplay sabotage, and there’s no expectation that everyone has to follow the strategy.
For example the healer shouldn’t have gone to market alone.
It’s about communication, and if someone doesn’t give you a response, that is itself a form of communication and you should assume they are not going to follow the strat and adjust accordingly.
As you cannot choose your teammates or make them listen to you in Blitz, you need to be able to adapt to whatever situation you find yourself in.
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