I'm on Sargeras, an ally dominated server (last I played, at least), and there is at least a 10-20 to 1 horde to ally ratio. So my take is that horde are using war mode 20x more than alliance, which makes for a horrendous gaming experience if you're ally.
Imagine going into AV and there's only 10 people on your team.
Hey Blizz, maybe you want to zone in an equal number of players in each zone--just like in BG's?
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Maybe you should get some friends if you're finding yourself outnumbered? How is this the game's fault?
You don't have to PvP.
You don't have to PvP.
I think they already try to balance the numbers
I see plenty of both factions, I think it's just saggygrass
Until they find a way to make it more balanced, 0 reason for me to turn it on, especially with the pretty crummy rewards it gives.
I tried it, thought maybe i'd get a couple good fights. Didn't happen, got mobbed by groups of horde.
Tried to find other alliance to fight back, no ones around.
Unless the number of alliance increases in warmode i'm keeping it off.
Tried to find other alliance to fight back, no ones around.
Unless the number of alliance increases in warmode i'm keeping it off.
07/25/2018 09:07 PMPosted by AyaaniUntil they find a way to make it more balanced
I think you're missing the point of War Mode...
It's not a cushy ride, it's a chaotic free-for-all.
I'm pretty sure it's not server specific anymore for any of the shards, it's only 'preferred' to be on your servers shard.
Maybe you just weren't seeing enough US alliance in warmode and too many US horde on warmode, nothing to do with server here.
Maybe you just weren't seeing enough US alliance in warmode and too many US horde on warmode, nothing to do with server here.
I kept mentioning this and no one cared. But yes, Horde outnumber Alliance about 10 to 1 in warmode, and yes, it is 100% pointless for Alliance to go in with the current state of things.
Every world quest has ~7 horde. When I /who the whole territory there are about 3 alliance. But... this is how it was before Warmode, so just be super happy you can turn it off. I was considering transferring 13 characters to PvE servers before this change, because I dreaded leveling. And I love PvP. But, I don't like getting ganged with 0 chance and GY camped. So...
Warmode is essentially a no risk 10% experience increase for Horde.
Every world quest has ~7 horde. When I /who the whole territory there are about 3 alliance. But... this is how it was before Warmode, so just be super happy you can turn it off. I was considering transferring 13 characters to PvE servers before this change, because I dreaded leveling. And I love PvP. But, I don't like getting ganged with 0 chance and GY camped. So...
Warmode is essentially a no risk 10% experience increase for Horde.
07/25/2018 09:13 PMPosted by ÐäwnI kept mentioning this and no one cared. But yes, Horde outnumber Alliance about 10 to 1 in warmode, and yes, it is 100% pointless for Alliance to go in with the current state of things.
Every world quest has ~7 horde. When I /who the whole territory there are about 3 alliance. But... this is how it was before Warmode, so just be super happy you can turn it off. I was considering transferring 13 characters to PvE servers before this change, because I dreaded leveling. And I love PvP. But, I don't like getting ganged with 0 chance and GY camped. So...
Warmode is essentially a no risk 10% experience increase for Horde.
Yeah I'm gonna turn it off. 10% extra on 20 wakening essence isn't worth the 6 times I was mob ganked trying to get it from ONE world quest.
Now if they changed war more so that you got a higher reward % based on how outnumbered you are, that'd be a different story. For example, if I got 100+ wakening essence because the alliance are so outnumbered, I'd be willing to be mob ganked 6 times.
Till that day comes, war mode = huge failure
07/25/2018 09:09 PMPosted by Lauxes07/25/2018 09:07 PMPosted by AyaaniUntil they find a way to make it more balanced
I think you're missing the point of War Mode...
It's not a cushy ride, it's a chaotic free-for-all.
1 Alliance vs 10 Horde ratio isn't a free-for-all, it's a slaughter.
07/25/2018 09:04 PMPosted by LauxesMaybe you should get some friends if you're finding yourself outnumbered? How is this the game's fault?
You don't have to PvP.
Clearly he wants to PvP, but is complaining because they don't feel that getting locked down by a raid group isn't anyone's idea of enjoyable gameplay. Also, difficult to make friends on the field when you're constantly being sharded away. That would be the part that's the game's fault.
07/25/2018 09:09 PMPosted by Lauxes07/25/2018 09:07 PMPosted by AyaaniUntil they find a way to make it more balanced
I think you're missing the point of War Mode...
It's not a cushy ride, it's a chaotic free-for-all.
The complaint isn't that it's chaotic: it's exactly the opposite. Horde is well-organized and fielding overwhelming numbers in most shards. If both sides were chaotic (or organized), it would be a marked improvement. No one has asked for a cushy ride, they're simply registering complaints.
Encourage the rest of your weak spineless alliance to turn it on
It has taken me about 2 hours to complete the Darkshore World Quests due to the amount of Horde in these areas compared to my friend who did it without war mode, only taking 10 minutes.
The issue is not that they have tried to balance the ratio, because this does not matter if there is a 40-man raid filled with Horde interested only in destroying Alliance questers.
However, this is also a thing that can be seen from the Horde, as I checked and also found a 40-man group of Alliance decimating Horde. These groups destroy the fun that comes from World PvP, as all the players who actually want to open-world PvP will be forced to join a group, which will take them off of their shard and put them on another where their faction outnumbers the other faction. This leaves the people who don't want to join a group fighting what feels like a 10 to 1 ratio against themselves.
The issue is not that they have tried to balance the ratio, because this does not matter if there is a 40-man raid filled with Horde interested only in destroying Alliance questers.
However, this is also a thing that can be seen from the Horde, as I checked and also found a 40-man group of Alliance decimating Horde. These groups destroy the fun that comes from World PvP, as all the players who actually want to open-world PvP will be forced to join a group, which will take them off of their shard and put them on another where their faction outnumbers the other faction. This leaves the people who don't want to join a group fighting what feels like a 10 to 1 ratio against themselves.
I play on KT, another Alliance dominated (PVP) realm... But whenever I go to raid with my guild, since warmode became a thing, everything has been flipped around, and the landscape is now COVERED in Horde. It makes no sense.07/25/2018 09:01 PMPosted by CallmedaddiI'm on Sargeras, an ally dominated server (last I played, at least), and there is at least a 10-20 to 1 horde to ally ratio. So my take is that horde are using war mode 20x more than alliance, which makes for a horrendous gaming experience if you're ally.
Trust me. You aren't the only one who is upset. Not all of us horde want things to be so one sided. I'd personally rather play with a numbers disadvantage to having so many fewer people to fight. Hope blizzard does something to either get more alliance playing or distribute the numbers better.
perhaps they could toggle on some bonuses onto war mode that only benefit alliance. Add in an extra 10% experience or rep gain until the population evens out.
maybe make a way for horde to break off and act as mercenaries?
maybe make a way for horde to break off and act as mercenaries?
07/25/2018 09:07 PMPosted by AyaaniUntil they find a way to make it more balanced, 0 reason for me to turn it on, especially with the pretty crummy rewards it gives.
i will say though that extra 10% (15% for invasions) is amazing for leveling up my horde alts tho, i don't even have to fight, when an alliance attacks me 3 other horde players swarm him. i literally ignore them except for a couple of heals until they are sufficiently swarmed ofc.
07/25/2018 09:04 PMPosted by LauxesHow is this the game's fault?
Warmode is supposed to spawn shards that are evenly balanced, if it's not actually doing that then there is a problem.
So your warmode is basically horde pve zone with benefits
Good blizz LETS BEGIN WAR with only one faction
Good blizz LETS BEGIN WAR with only one faction