The worst class balance ever

So it seems to me that pretty much every class is broken? That’s the best kind of balance, baby.

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I’m confused you said this is the worst class balance ever then went on to say every class is good.

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The way he stated it was a bit antithetical to his point. It does seem each class has one good spec/covenant combo for the most part that is competetive.

The issue, tho, is that they are only strong with that combo while other specs/covenant choices are severely lacking. I don’t like playing sub rogue and would prefer to stick with my wet noodle sin rogue, but if things don’t change before season kickoff I basically have to switch to sub. This is obviously nothing unique to this expac, but it does feel particularly bad right now.

Rogues are brain dead easy… it’s sad to see.

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Wait till you see them with PVE trinkets.

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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Only at Blizzard can you “balance” thing like what we have now, and somehow, keep your job.

Such results would get you fired put of any business with any sense.

We didn’t need nerfs then and we don’t need them now. The game will be vastly different in 2-3 weeks with Legendaries, Soulbinds, Conduits, Trinkets etc. We actually don’t know what will be super strong yet since no one has gear or their actual build yet.

You can’t pretune the unknown. Just enjoy the fun fast paced PvP and make sure you gear up and do the requirements for the new systems. BGs haven’t been this fun in many expansions.

Who would’ve guessed that having no secondary defense stats, no defensive Legendaries, no defensive soul binds or conduits etc. would lead to people dying quickly??!?!

I am completely shocked

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I’ll give blizzard time to patch this nonsense

The pvp at the start of every expansion is wacky and usually fast paced.

Wrath of the lich king was ridiculous the first season, but by the end it was some of the best pvp this game has ever seen, other than shadowmourne.

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My main is a tank at like 170ilvl and rogues are tankier than me

makes 0 sense

and to top it off hunters drain my hp in 2 buttons…and im a tank with not horrible ilvl.

MAKES NO SENSE.

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Agreeing with Abom. Shocked !!

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Agreed.

Abomb has been right all along. Repent anti MMORPG sinners.

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day … wouldn’t get too excited :sweat_smile:

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If the numbers are still unknown to Blizzard, the developers of this expansion, the ones who design all the classes, items, and systems, that’s not comforting.

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It’s not about just the numbers that is why Ion came out with a statement. Saying they will do tuning “IF” needed after players discover some crazy combination that we haven’t thought of that is too strong.

The Devs don’t know what we will decide to run or what Meta we will play. That is something we play with and develop what Builds and Stats are important. Then, only then… can you balance.

The Devs can’t nerf what they don’t know what will be built or possibly know how strong it will be. You can’t pretune the unknown because the players are an unpredictable variable.

This is why RPG games are so much fun.

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They could release weekly balance patches based on the current state of the game.

There isn’t some Blizzard law that they’re only allowed to do one balance pass each season.

I agree totally there should be more frequent tuning but BFA, well… there were a lot of problems there and not going to go into that rabbit hole. There should be balance passes every couple months and “extra” hotfixes if there becomes some crazy outlier in between.

Starting when? You can’t balance this week since next week the gameplay will be drastically different. There is no possible way to balance yet.

With that said every week just isn’t realistic or healthy in an RPG game no thanks I likely wouldn’t play with stuff changing every week. Changes every 6 weeks though and “extra” hotfixes like I said if needed are fine.

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Starting in the beta. Starting now.

Just start.

You can come up with an excuse to not balance each week.

“Oh wait, they’re not in full mythic raid gear yet. We can’t start balancing the unknown.”

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They did balance in the Beta and right before launch like how can you ask for more. They even pre nerfed the PvE trinkets.

You can’t balance now. It’s literally impossible and I explained it. You are just completely unrealistic because the game will be totally different in 2-3 weeks. It makes no sense. :man_facepalming:t2: :rofl:

This is why I had you on ignore you just don’t contribute any realistic or meaningful ideas to the thread. You also don’t understand game or design mechanics. You can’t balance now it’s impossible. Be happy we got the pre launch balancing. If you hate the game don’t play. Most of us are having a great time and can’t wait for the next couple weeks.

Go back and read what I said not going to keep repeating myself. You clearly don’t understand the situation and balance can’t be done now when the builds and power hasn’t been attained yet.

“Facts don’t care about your feelings”

Now time for me to enjoy a pretty fun game.

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