The Warlock Burdon - Waling Speed

I main a warlock. Love the class, the class fantasy, and the play style, but my movement speed sucks and it is becoming a problem for me. Burning rush is good, but it doesn’t make up for the speed advantage that a Demon hunter or Druid might have.

For example, I just did a timewalking dungeon, and missed out because the Demon Hunter tank engaged and killed the last 2 bosses before I could tag them. I didn’t get loot or credit for the Fel Path Through Time quest. Running this dungeon wasn’t fun and I didn’t get anything out of it. This was unusual. I can typically get to a boss before it’s dead. But it’s getting more common to only get there at the tail end of a fight.

This has been a problem with the warlock for a long time now. Destro AOE symmed the best in the last tier, but without the ability to move it’s almost a useless spec. Aff and Demo are more mobile, but they aren’t fast and they can’t do mechanics that require speed like other classes can.

Not sure what to do here. Is there a way to increase my speed that might help? I’ve used potions to increase my speed, but I’m not going to wear a speedset all the time.

Should I just change my main and get over it? Seems drastic, but I’m almost to this point.

Take a note from speed tanks playbook: start moving ahead before the pack is dead. Its trivial content anway

Me whaling speed is to the max! I’m a master harpooner!
:whale:

I’m confused. How does one fall behind with Burning Rush?

I thought the " loot lock out " if boss is engaged was fixed. I have been locked out of the last boss several times and gotten credit for kill and credit towards the quest. I believe ToT is the place i have the most issue with that , not knowing about the portal when i started playing again

You die! :slight_smile:

I don’t have a problem keeping up in dungeons, especially with burning rush.

You must understand, especially with Destruction (I can not speak to the others), that if the tank is just go go going, then you, well, go go go. Being that we’re basically turrets, if we’re moving, we’re not DPSing. And the tank is moving.

So, we don’t DPS. Well, I certainly don’t DPS. I just run along and keep up. Eventually, they stop and die because they pulled to much, or at least have to pause at a boss. THEN I DPS.

That’s just the way it is, I accept this nature of the warlock, I embrace it, and I go go go and shadow the tank. If the tank is going that fast, they probably don’t need my DPS anyway, so anything I toss on to the pyre is just a bonus.

You’d have to try really hard these days to die from using Burning Rush with all of the talents to mitigate that damage. :dracthyr_shrug:

Yep I play Destro. I just hit Conflag when it’s up, sometimes throw out a rain of fire if I want to tag some stuff, but I’ll use Cataclysm when they stop for a moment and then just watch them burn.

Sure, the movement sucks, but I still don’t see how one falls that behind to get locked out of two bosses.

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Conflag is insta cast, I use that when I’m running destro. When I run demo, I send my feldude in ahead of me, until I can plant my feet and cast HoG

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As I said in my original post, it’s unusual to fall as far behind as I described in my example. But all warlocks will fall behind in certain content. That’s the point.

I don’t accept the “just live with it” argument. As part of the warlock class, we have an obvious negative trait. Speed. We can’t overcome it entirely and it has an impact on play for all warlocks. You may be able to live with it and that’s great, but I obviously have an issue with it. It affects whether the game is fun or not.

I’m pretty sure that Bliz knows that Warlocks are slow. I’m pretty sure they intend for Warlocks to be slow. They aren’t going to solve the problem berceuse they have given the class this characteristic intentionally. The question that I am asking is “is there a way to deal with this without changing mains?”

No offense, but if the answerer is “do better” then I would challenge you to advise me as to how to do better construclivly. If the answer is “just live with it” then I will be playing my lock a lot less.

I played Aff in the TW dungeons because Corruption, Agony and Siphon Life are instant cast with no CD. Easy tag, easy life.

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Where did I ever say this?

I’m just saying if you’re falling behind at all when you have Burning Rush, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Most Warlocks I’ve run with end up ahead of the tank.

Hit stuff, use Burning Rush, hit more stuff, keep going.

:dracthyr_shrug:

“For example, I just did a timewalking dungeon, and missed out because the Demon Hunter tank engaged and killed the last 2 bosses before I could tag them. I didn’t get loot or credit for the Fel Path Through Time quest.”

That’s not a warlock problem, that’s a ‘3/4 of DH tanks are impatient idiots’ problem. Also the easy content is now so easy that any class with ramp up time can’t actually contribute to short fights.

OP, perhaps ask Blizzard to make Timewalking 50 times harder so people have to stop and fight every monster for a while before it dies.

I’m sure that would go over well. :smirk:

Warlocks are not meant to be hyper mobile like mages or Evoker.

It is the difference that makes classes not all feel the same

I love going into BC Timewalking and watching the tank get wrecked first pull. Puts a smile on my face.

Despite BR I do still think they’re only faster than DKs.

All that said, it’s generally just an experience/effort thing. Some casters need to put more work into DPSing in the moving environment. It’s a fun part of the game, imo.

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Are you using speed enchants OP?

You can get them for several gear slots this expansion.

Other than that; Yeah. If the tank is just running from boss to boss, you’re gonna have to just flat out run as well on a non-mobile class.

I don’t run group content anymore but I do notice how slow some casters and tanks are so I use the speed enchants as much as possible.

Cloak, boots for speed seems to help a bit. Idk if that’d help you out any, probably not but thought I’d mention it.