The War Within™ Season 1 and Raid Schedule Overview

You also get a free tier token for getting KSM (which is easy and fast).

a free “hero-track tier token”, not myth track.

Same thing that a handful of Mythic raiders are getting the first few weeks, in other words. Except everybody who does M+ gets it, because it’s guaranteed.

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Do you normally get your KSM token faster than your Aotc token? I’d imagine both are week 1 for you.

I do think Aotc is harder than KSM, but it’s marginal.

It depends, usually KSM.

One funny thing is that if somebody misses AOTC because they dc’d during the fight (which has happened), they’ll still get the KSM since that’s a sure thing.

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WHY IS EVERYONE SCREAMING IN HERE?!

Cool, no reason to buy Early Access. No reason to even play at normal launch either really. Even casual players will hit the content wall long before M+ is released. Great way to kill a brand new expansion/saga.

Most players are going to find M0’s to be very rough at the start.

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You could say that about anything in the game… the game is about drops

We’ve been saying since early access was announced that there was really no reason to get it. You’d have more time to look around, maybe level an alt, but that’s it. Blizzard has made it quite clear since the beginning that all the stuff that matters would be deactivated.

It’s been that way the last couple expansions, ever since they moved everything to the season model and don’t have the seasons start for a couple weeks after launch.

Honestly its been that way since… mop i think, so even before strict seasons

That could be. Like I said earlier in the thread, I used to take time off for expansions, but not really anymore.

Used to be 2 weeks. Then I noticed I just spent that time playing other games, instead, so cut it to a week. Then a couple days. Not sure I’ll even do that, this time.

Yeah. I used to as well. Now I take the first week of M+ off.

I got there Head start just so I could play the launch over the weekend.

Pretty much at the request of more hardcore raiders.

Something something feeling “forced.”

i’ve never been super hardcore, but i much prefer the week or two of downtime during launch
gives time to level multiple classes and whatnot before raid

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I dunno about that, every raider I know (including the HoF’ers) was aghast when Blizzard moved Mythic to open the same week as Normal/Heroic. The only people who seemed excited were the people who pay others to raid for them.

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For lfr gear drops… who wants to do that even once?

Have you been under a rock?

M0 now is what M +10 was for loot drops, its normal raid ilvl with heroic ilvl in the vault, its no different than before when the vault was capped at +10 (actually better since loot from the eod was capped at like +5)

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Pug leaders for low/mid level M+ keys aren’t going to inspect your trinkets and decline you if they aren’t BIS. Raid pug leaders will decline you if your ilvl is not high enough, and running M+ is basically a requirement to boost your ilvl to your average pug leader’s standards

I use that time to get Loremaster for the expansion and start knocking out some of the explore/quest achievements. There’s always a handful of special achievements for doing random stuff associated with exploring and questing.