Orcs: All the AU warlords
Trolls: Jindo the Godbreaker
Tauren: Magatha Grimtotem.
Blood elves: Kael’thas
Goblins: Gallywix
Undead: Sylvanas
Pandaren: Chen Stormstout
Nightborne: Grand Magistrix Elisande
Zandalari: Rastakhan
Maghar: Same as Orcs
Highmountain Tauren: Underking Dragrul
I still stand by this list. Nothing has changed.
Except your treasonous sentiment of jumping ship the moment Sylvie gets a faction lol! 
The Horde under the lead of Thrall and Baine sucks as.s.- That is a fact.
Fixed that for you! 
You’re the only one who does, bud. Nobody cares whether you change your mind or not, it’s just funny how wildly inconsistent you are.
You claim to be the “only true Horde patriot,” but everything you suggests seems like it’d cripple the Horde in seconds.
Help me out if I am wrong in this but I thought the difference between going to the Maw or going to Revendreth was based on the ability for Revendreth to safely atone you. If you have no regrets and defy the authority of Revendreth and refuse to atone you will end up in the Maw. If you are so dangerous you could break free from the domination and control of Revendreth you go straight to the Maw.
In that case for Sylvanas is it less a question on how much bad she did but rather how powerful she is, especially in regards to her will and ability to overthrow her suppressors combined with her unwillingness to believe she did anything wrong ?
“Look, we’ve all been there, right? Letting our fear and anger get the best of us, accidentally burning a tree full of innocents just because some night elf pushed your buttons .” - Sylvanas probably, in a snuggie with bags under her eyes.
It was Tyrande all along plays in the background.
Baine does suck. That is a fact. He’s so disrespectful. Like in War Crimes when he physically grabs Sylvanas by the arm and he internal monologues about crushing her bones. Or in Before the Storm when he disrespects his Warchief and speaks before her, to Magni even after swearing an oath to the Warchief… so rude, if that’s what the Horde stands for then it deserves to fall.
I agree with Sylvanas’s stance on the Tauren, they should just join the Alliance already.
I gotchu Erevien. I get what you are saying hyperbolically.
Wait? Wasn’t Sylvanas the one who brought up how strong he was, and if he wanted to he could harm her he could easily when he grabbed her arm? Baine’s whole shtick in War Crimes was dealing with his rage against Garrosh, and how if he had let his rage get the better of him he would have ripped Garry in half with his bare hands in a Mag’kora? And of COURSE he pledges to aid Magni and is upset when Sylvanas refuses to allow him to. His peoples patron spiritual deity is effectively dying from that sword. That should be a priority for him.
EDIT: And yes, you and Erevian have made it very clear that the only thing you seem to value on the entire Horde faction is Sylvanas herself. Thank GOD she will never be a part of it again. Granted, its interesting that you both agree on this point, yet see her in polar opposite ways (he revels in her being an edgy villain).
You know, I can’t answer your whiny Tumblr DMs if you don’t accept them on your settings.
idk, he has been consistent and speaks his mind on these forums whether it is popular or not. It’s really quite admirable.
The Alliance can judge the Horde why can’t people who play Horde judge the Horde too?
Erevien represents a small faction of Horde players right now who are disillusioned with what BFA brought to the table and feel betrayed by the Horde as a result.
No, Erevien represents the people who want the Horde to be entirely evil full tilt in the same way as the Galactic Empire or Chaos. He’s just choosing to (poorly) mask it by saying he’s a “Horde patriot” or the “only true Horde fan.”
If you actually stopped and looked at his inane ramblings for a moment, this’d be apparent. I don’t think you wanna hook your wagon up to the guy who wishes actual harm on Blizzard devs’ families because they had the audacity to write a story he dislikes.
BUT then again, you’re also someone who uses what you perceive as other people’s mental illness as a weapon, so who knows? Maybe you and Erevien deserve each other.
I didn’t read that (this thread is 1153 posts long so if someone can summerize…), but if he did say it , that’s wrong.
I mean, he’s not really that consistent beyond “he wants what he wants”. He generally likes powerful characters, unless he just likes them for them. He simultaneously claims he likes the Horde cultures, but wants to emplace despots that would clean sweep those away. Especially if that “liked” culture would get in the way of his pet “Sith” Despot. And he claims he’s the last true Horde patriot, but as soon as someone suggests a Sylvie faction be made … he’s all sorts of ready to jump ship.
In short, he wants so bad a Sith Empire-esk faction in WoW that he’s not even clear himself how he’d get the Horde to be that. Consistent is not exactly an adjective I’d apply to him. Though, you are right he does stick to his guns.
It was in another thread, on his currently banned account. Oh that’s another thing, Erevien’s currently dodging a block, he just hasn’t been caught doing so yet.
I wouldn’t describe him as any of these things - Erevien DOES stick to his guns, but not once does he ever go into why he does so. He offers a big list of names of horrible people he wants to lead the Horde, but never offers any real explanation for how they’d benefit the Horde other than his distaste for the current council.
He’s never going to address how Magatha tried to wipe out Thunder Bluff, how Dargrul waged war on Highmountain, or how Jin’do summoned Hakkar. Because at his core, he knows that would discredit his list, so he’d rather double down on the list itself because his “I hate the Alliance” brain is greater than his reason or logic.
Erevien is fascinating to observe, but he’s in no way the visionary or patriot he says he is. If you’re disgruntled by the Horde’s story in BFA, that’s fine. But rest assured - Erevien’s Horde would be much worse.
Yes, I agree. Very inappropriate, but it doesn’t negate everything he says.
Honestly, he tends to operate pretty heavily on “contrarian” logic. Its not so much he likes the Horde, he just hates the Alliance. Its not likely he even cares for most of the Council list he made, he just hates the current Council. In few instances like with Sylvie or Wix (who embody the sort of “Be the Villain without consequences” power fantasy he enjoys) he is generally able to explain WHY he’s for them. But outside of that, most stances he seems to take are reactionary to something he doesn’t like. Over taking a stance due to something he does like.
I know it was my fault, but shouldn’t we get back on topic rather than discussing one particular poster?
Erevien is the topic’s poster. His topic doesn’t have any real substance outside he wants Sylvanas to be right because he likes her, and not because of the actual contents of her actions.
There’s not really any discussion to be had outside of an emotional connection to a character, even at the expense of… basically every other character in WoW’s history minus maybe Nathanos and Zovaal.