You are going way overboard with what I meant.
I meant that magic would be regulated, and that mages would fall under the rangers’ supervision. That’s it.
About high elves and magic, my vision comes a lot from older sources, like the Warcraft Encyclopedia:
I know this is not entirely canon anymore, and I’m not trying to enforce it, as it clearly contradicts more recent developments. But it does show the vision that Blizzard had for high elves.
I disagree with this. I don’t think there should be, ‘Supervision,’ on either side.
I don’t remember that, but it has been a while since I read the older novels so it’s possible that my memory is hazy but that definitely skips a beat in my memory. And Idk if I would say they are connected to the Sunwell, but it’s a sacred site that I know they are allowed to make Pilgrimage to.
If that’s the case then I misunderstood her, or you did since she liked my comment I think I was saying what she was trying to. But that’s just a guess.
Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m saying.
Her original statement on the matter:
Which means no overabundance of magical brooms doing their duties.
Relegating magic strictly to a, ‘Tool of War,’ is hardly the same as, ‘no wasteful use of magic,’ Alamara. You even agreed when I stated this was similar to what the Night Elves did to the Highborne in Cataclysm.
How do I post pictures? I can get URLs which have a summation for picture or whtv, but I see some people past screen shots. How do I do that? It’s relevant to this thread, mildly.
How about you people leave our Belf NPCs alone? No, leave Halduron outside of your “muh Quel´Thalas!!” fetish, please. He WAS present in Isle of Thunder while Liadrin and her merry band of long eared human pallies were out gallivating with their Draenei buddies. He expressely defended Lor´themar from Veeresa´s idiotic remarks on Cata and literally says to the messenger he “invited” her cause it was easier to summon her useless self than his usual troops -still stationed in Northrend btw- and that she at least has basic knowledge of the terrain, no more and no less. He DEFENDS Lor´themar´s actions in the Regent´s short story regarding the exile of Renthar et al!!
Barring the current obssesion of devs with Liadrin, Farstriders have taken a much more active part in any conflict regarding the Belves than the Blood Knights -only the Magisters seem to get an edge over the Farstriders. Strop trying to steal Belf thematics, if you people can´t figure out how to properly develop your Helf narrative, well that´s not the Horde and Belf playerbase problem but yours.
And then they QQ over us opposing them… yeah I wonder how would you people react to siggestions of Auric turning Belf and going back to Silvermoon. Heck, you QQ over blue eyes for Belves when lore actually supports this… the headcanon of Sunwell being only Light IS false, canon lore clearly establish the fount IS a mix of both arcane AND light.
Please develop your fav race without messing up other people´s race, tyvm. Cause until you learn to do this, you simply won´t deserve to get it available, period. It is basic RESPECT, dude.
Depends on your forum rank. You need rank 3 to post links/pictures from anywhere. At lower rank, you can only do so from allowed sites (wowhead is allowed, for instance). All you need is to post the URL and wait for your preview to show the picture, then submit it.
I may have been more scrict than necessary. I feel it can be similar, but does not need to be exactly the same. I just don’t think a high elf place should be like Silvermoon, where magic is everywhere and people can’t live without it. A high elf place should feel more natural.
To be fair, as I’ve stated before, I’d like an Elven District in Stormwind, right behind the Mage District, as a combination of Night Elven and High Elven design, so I doubt you’d see as much magic there as you would in Silvermoon, if I had my way at least.
Mind you, there is a big difference between being able to live without magic, and having it as a convenience.
I’d like to imagine a High Elven settlement to be a place of learning, philosophy, art, education. I’d like to think rather than Sanctums they would have libraries, and these libraries would have more than just magical knowledge within them. Magic remains a central part of their lives, but again, as a means to an end, rather than the end itself. The relationship between High Elven Rangers and Mages would be one of respect and gratitude.
Will Battlemages exist? Of course. But for your average High Elf, in which magic is a part of their daily lives, I don’t think that should change over-much. Do I think we need to see a High Elf using magic to make a knife butter their toast? Absolutely not. Do I want to see a High Elven Blacksmith using magic when forging armaments for the Silver Covenant? Yes. Do I want to see magic brooms sweeping buildings/roads? No. Do I want to see an enchanted tome that is a catalogue of a library’s contents and can bring a book directly to you? Yes.
Then I think we may have reached an agreement. You convinced me.
How does one know their forum rank? I’ve posted youtube links before but can’t for Imgur for the sake of a picture. Is there an allowed site for posting pictures?
Go to your profile and type .jrd after the html.
Then look. It’ll say each forum rank you’ve accumulated.
Not that I know. You post post the URL with the [code ][/ code] tags and people can copy/paste to see it. If they are appropriate, I have enough rank to repost your URL so everyone can see it.
Your rank is defined by your activity. This thread explains it. There’s no easy way to check your rank, but the thread also has some info on how to do it.
I appreciate the information Alamara thanks so much. But it’s essentially what I was talking about earlier.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ai8piZP
It’s how I imagine the end territory barriers after the aforementioned starting zone experience. (It’s instanced so there is a 30-60 questing bracket later)
Wildhammers & Quel’dorei share one instance [Like Gnome and Dwarf Questing]
Revantusk Forest Trolls in another.
From what I see you are thrust Level 2
I really like this idea, I’ve always seen High Elves as being more respectful of magic and how they use it.
Your image here:
Fun thing: I had some similar ideas about making Seradane high elven territory (with Dalaran floating over it to boot), and Jinta’alor becoming a Horde city.
I think the main issue in Seradane becoming a High Elven settlement is the World Tree. Druids use it as part of their class hall. They’re able to travel to each World Tree. Planting an Alliance settlement over one would really put Horde Druids at a disadvantage.
It was a pre-Legion idea. Nowadays there’s also the return of Nightmare dragons during WoW aniversaries. But before Legion, the are was essentially useless.
Nowadays, I’d prefer to simply expand Quel’danil into a town:
This is a collection of ideas to turn Quel’danil Lodge into a small high elven town, to act as a “capital” of sorts for an hypothetical high elf allied race.
The idea is that the highvale, the Silver Covenant and the void elves unite to create a new home. Quel’danil is perfect for an update, since it has very little content nowadays (in essence, 2 important NPCs and 3 interactable quest objects), so it could be reworked with minimum effort.
The main lodge would house martial classes. The main defenders would be a gestalt group of rangers, formed from all 3 elven groups.
The mage tower over the cliff would be staffed by Silver Covenant mages.
A hidden cave behind the waterfall would be maintained by the ren’dorei and decorated with void elf aesthetics. It would include a portal to Telogrus.
Even if playable high elves never come to be, I’d love to see something like that implemented. It would work for void elves as well, as a complementary “capital” beyond the barren islands of Telogrus Rift.
As much as I like the idea you’ve laid out for Quel’Danil, I still can’t see them accepting Magic within their settlement. I think we’ll have to rule Quel’Danil out as a potential home for the High Elves. Aside from that it’s a lot of work to do, remodeling that area, and can pose issues with questing from Cataclysm.
An addition to Stormwind that also gives something to Night Elves, and is accessible to more players, feels like the right way to go, to me at least. I mean, I’d gladly accept a slightly modified Dalaran hovering over some remote part of the ocean, but that’s a whole lot of space for an area exclusive to High Elf players, if it follows the same restrictions as more spaces like the Telogrus Rift or Lightforged Vindicaar.