But did you see what that airport was wearing? He was totally asking for it.
All those flashy SMGCS routes, and long and wide runways?
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Yeah, this bugged me: Moira, Gelbin, Velen and Tyrande should have been there (if not also Malfurion).
I actually don’t mind the 7th legion armor. For (some) comparison, NATO has this:
While it’s more about standardization - and not outright looking identical - there is some similarity there and desire to have a uniform fighting force to be able to quickly discern friend from foe on a battlefield.
However, I’ve not been a fan of the hegemonic factions for some time. I much prefer racial identity over faction identity.
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Name some examples of international communities standards that back this up.
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And then immediately discard them because none of them exist on Azeroth.
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I can understand both sides and both sides bring coherent points on paper
The Anti-Human Faction says that they are at the expense of human characters who are masters of all things are poorly represented.
The Pro-Human Group says in essence that they are boring and actually hollowed out in content.
Stormwind by itself often works like the alliance as a whole, without stormwind nothing works, nothing works anymore, so it makes the question of an alliance of equals impossible, because in such a way there are no equals.
In a more realistic outcome, Dwarves and Night Elves would probably be at least completely equal. I mean night elves were WC3 Strong enough to be equal to Horde and Alliance at the same time and the last great loss of the dwarves was in the 2nd War.
It should at least suffice that these 3 parties form the heart of the Alliance, and that they are all roughly equal. But unfortunately Blizzard chose a strange way which leaves only discontent in the long run.
Humans shine above everything, even the youngest characters seem more powerful and wiser than the old ones.
(Anduin - Veelen)
(Jaina - Rommath/Thalyssra)
(Nathanos - Tyrande)
In terms of representation, this is equal to the destruction of these peoples who “suffer” from it.
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People why? Why do you argue with one man for over 100 posts?
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I think mainly because it’s a community issue that doesn’t offer a good solution, ultimately the players can’t be held responsible for Blizzard’s questionable decisions.
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It’s a metaphor for the determination yet the futility of humanity.
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wait what, the alliance war council consist of 2 nations at most.
what the… Do they at least have the other leaders show up and not say anything?
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The alliance has multiple councils throughout the 15 years of wow, and most of them have every single leader at the table, in fact all the war campagin missions have Wyrmbane, and Shandris a nelf at the fortfront, I have no I idea why grandblade is picking one and saying its always like this.
In fact I’ll pick three to prove my point, the start of legion after the broken front, every single alliance leader is discussing the events with anduin, cata, the earthquakes, every single alliance leader is discussing the events with varian, and BFA the end of 8.3 every single alliance leader is discussing the events with everyone else.
The most I can think of this is when Jaina gives Anduin his boat during the Kul Tiran unlock quest. The other Alliance leaders - even Tyrande and Malfurion, but NOT Gelbin for obvious reasons - show up on the boat… and they do indeed say nothing whatsoever, they’re just there.
But that, clearly, is not a war council. Largely, the Alliance war council in BFA boils down to whoever happens to be on the main deck of the Wind’s Redemption in Boralus. Granted, the march on Orgrimmar did somewhat of a better job with diversifying the ranks, but those were more deployment orders than an actual council.
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It is pretty refreshing to get this from a “Human Male Paladin” players. Not meaning to generalize, but I have grown accustom to my complaints about the Kaldorei to be written off if not ridiculed by my fellow Alliance players as well as Horde players.
I RP Alliance on Moon Guard, and Horde on WrA… I have been pretty active in the Night Elf RP community for many years. I lead community events which pulled in hundreds of Night Elf RPers.
Since BfA, I have watched that drop dramatically. Entire discord servers dedicated to night elf RP are now ghost towns. What remains is this odd mix of purple humans and Anti-Alliance Kaldorei groups, which was kind of the niche my guild once filled, has now become the norm. As silly as it sounds, it feels downright dystopian. It really feels as though the Kaldorei really did suffer a near extermination level event. So I guess props to Blizzard for immersion.
The annoying this about it all is, I used to like humans in this world. I love Warcraft 2 and that image of the Alliance. But the state of the game in for the last couple years, starting in MoP I think, has made it very difficult to like anything. At this point, I love the idea of the Night Elves more than the Night Elves themselves. It’s almost a spiteful love, as if my unapologetic fandom is somehow a defiant battle cry given in a clearly losing battle.
I know the best thing to do is to just cut ties with Warcraft altogether. Finally see it for what it is, an old Titan that has been inherited by out-of-touch money grabbers that will only abuse my love for the franchise by squeezing shallow, surface level, love dollars out of me with lukewarm fanservice and false hope.
But as true as that is, I don’t want to believe it. I naively refuse because I have backed this company for so long, supported it for so long. I have seen great things come from it, and even now I am happy with what Blizzard is doing with other games. I think “Well, maybe…” I theory craft, I try to foresee a satisfying outcome, and I hold out for it.
In this case, I really like the idea of a corrupt Stormwind. I really like the idea that SI:7 intentionally forwarded misleading information to the Kaldorei, so they could have a war to reclaim lost human holdings. I like the idea of that ugly nature of the Alliance being exposed and made put on display for all to see in a future expansion. It would be a nice change of pace, and it give non-humans a chance to be the front and center heroes of the story.
But will that happen? I doubt it. I will hope it does, but it is false hope. The scary thing is I think Blizzard knows that, considering BfA is apparently the storyline in which they put “A lot of love” into.
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It’s not just your night elf groups which have been feeling the decline. It’s been going on since Warlords when mandatory grinding started eating up the bulk of player time. All of the RP communities have either declined or ceased to exist altogether. I’ve seen this acutely on Earthen Ring on both Horde and Alliance sides.
There have been examples of corruption individually in stormwind: like Benedictus and Farthing. But you mean more of a systemic, in-grown corruption, right? More of a “CIA Operation Northwoods” kind of clandestine stuff?
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I might believe you if I haven’t seen the human communities remain the same… Perhaps even flourish.
Yeah, my current theory is that the Council of Nobles, Shaw and Rodgers among them, are taking advantage of Anduin’s inexperience as a leader, and going behind his back to forward their own goals, and what they believe to be Stormwind’s best interests.
It makes sense to me, as this most recent war has played out almost entirely in Stormwind’s favor. Puppet leaders in the Horde. Reclaimed human holdings, reformed human alliances.
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The nelf community killed itself with drama and just not working together my guild and others try to set up events and more but people stopped going either do to the problems with the game or to drama
Would be pretty cool, in an ironic twist. When he was “king” as a boy, it was a dragon that was pulling the strings and making stuff happen. Now, in this hypothetical scenario, it’d be “regular” humans attempting to undermine their king. How Alteraci!
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I think that’s just you, Kat. I never had any Drama in my guild or with other Nelf guilds. Not even with you.
It would be fun. Horde players can finally Raid Stormwind.
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They’re usually hanging out in Stormwi…oh you mean a PvE raid? 
WPvP does happen on my server quite a bit, as it seems the Undercity Decorating Committee pays us a visit frequently to ensure our skeletons drape elegantly over our fair hamlet.
I never had drama with other nelf guild but your guild didn’t go to the nelf stuff we did in darkshore that I forget what guild ran it but it was them and seven other nelf guilds those events last till 8.1