The Types of People Who Don't Want RDF

As far as I know dungeons aren’t being removed from the game and you are fully free to form a group and run them. You are not being “prevented” from running them.

(I’m waiting for you to interpret the irony)

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How many level appropriate players are doing Vanilla dungeons right now? Those groups are almost nonexistent. It’s nothing but boost spam for those dungeons. It will be the same with TBC dungeons in WotLK without LFD.

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It’s really not though.

The community you claim to be “Defending” doesn’t exist in my experience. Everyone suberts everything as much as they can, and are already extremely anti-social, and if your not in a clique, or not in early, your SoL, which also extends to alts.

RDF doesn’t harm the community aspect of the game, it simply makes accessing content actually doable, especially for smaller realms whom do not want to be forced to migrate to mega servers.

Me being able to actually find groups to actually play the game, trumps your perceived idea of “Community” in my opinion.

You can have all the “Community” you want with your friend groups and with your guilds, RDF doesn’t touch those things, it doesn’t harm those things, and it doesn’t devalue those things.

Other players are not obligated to play only in the way you personally deem acceptable, you are actively advocating against players having options to play the game, for your own personal perceived vision of how you want the game to be played.

If you want to stick to your communities and only do inguild stuff then do it, RFD does not effect that.

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why do you not want LFD? youll be player gatekept for being a shaman dps.

sitting in town staring at lfg bulletin board is not social interaction. no one does dungeons to find friends, people just want to get it done.

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But you’ve been preaching how awesome the experience of forming trade chat pugs is.

You’re saying on your entire server you can’t find 4 other people who feel the same to play with? Like on your entire server there are 4 other people who think trade chat pugs are just the best?

Well I guess then you would find out what it’s like to be on a low pop realm now without LFD.

Random dungeons are endgame for a lot of casuals.

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The entire gist of the argument is that RDF dries up that pool to to an extreme degree.

Maybe if RDF had zero effect on the ability to form groups outside of RDF, then maybe, but as long as you aren’t blind and deaf, you understand that it obviously does have an effect.

:man_facepalming:
Of course the great irony is that lfd would drastically cut back on boosting and selling dungeons runs.

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But that’s precisely the point, you are claiming that trade chat pugging is such an awesome experience that classic players just love. But then contradicting yourself by claiming most of them would abandon it given the choice…

Hmm… sounds like it’s not actually very popular.

This isn’t like CRBG’s or more recently same faction BG’s where there was no choice, players were always free to form groups just as they are now.

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Yeah, so?

I can think of a million viable examples of good things that can come as a result of horrendously stupid ideas.

The point is that the negatives outweigh the positives.

Citation please.

This is an argument clearly made in bad faith. If you don’t understand the distinction between doing something because you feel forced to or doing something because you actually love doing it, I can’t really help you.

I liked a Ziryus post and I feel dirty. :face_vomiting:

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Very true. WotLK was a very casual friendly expansion. LFD had a lot to do with that.

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Kinda like how you tell us its completely optional and doesnt need to be used yet its inclusion is entirely mandatory.

Indeed. I went back to Shadowlands for a few weeks to play through the 9.1 and 9.2 campaigns and didn’t see any of that nonsense.

Nothing is mandatory.

I want Blizzard Devs to make a fresh toon on Faerlina and pug their way until they have enough gear to do t6.

Tell me that is a fun an social atmosphere.

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Can’t wait to sit in lfg for 30-45 mins on my dead server to try and attempt to put a group together.

I feel that Blizz is pinching for money by removing this feature. Essentially pushing people that are on low-pop servers to pay up, and transfer.

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Or buy a boost on a high pop server.