Thats kills it all right there. The devs disagree with you strongly.
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Not really.
Ghostcrawler stated, after he had left Blizzard, that he didn’t like the implementation of Pandaren as a neutral race. No Blizzard representative in the current employ of Blizzard has stated that the Developers as a whole felt that Pandaren were a mistaken and should not be repeated in the future.
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Indeed, we are perfection incarnate. Unlike our Lowborn Cousins, the Sin’dorei, we High Elfs have no mana addiction nor weak-wills. I still love you though, despite your many flaws my darling dove.
Your many, many flaws.
/tentacleflip
You do realize that when we ask for High Elves, we are being really specific on what we’re saying, right?
We don’t want the void tainted twice turncoats that are the Void Elves.
We are specifically referring to the ones who choose to stay with their friends through good and bad. The ones who did not a abandon their allegiances at the first sign of hardship.
As I said earlier, this is not about models. The bigest issue about Void Elves is the fact that they used to be Blood Elves. This mockery is far from what we have been asking for so long.
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I assure you my perky peacock, I am more than enough High Elf for you too handle.
/tentacleflip
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So do I. Pandas being part of the Horde is really stupid and I’m not saying that as a panda hater. Their reasoning, what our faction did to them, makes them an Alliance race.
And I know, I know a panda founded Orgrimmar but that was before we had a warchief enslave and murdered hundreds of pandas.
But thats what you got, Blizzard isnt about to take them away to give you something else. You can be as salty about it as you want but all this pleading and bargaining to change what already is just wont happen.
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I can sorta agree. I mean Ji does fit the (thrall) Horde mentality of actions over words, get the job done, etc and I fully respect that. But the greater Pandaren society fell more in line with the Alliance. Personally I would have wanted some Mogu or something who, as a culture, exemplified the right through might Horde we had during MoP, and now.
But as I said, I cant change what already is and wouldnt want to give up the pandas we have now, I just wish the distinction in mentality was more defined.
Even the choice at the end of the starting zone paints the Alliance in a much better light than the Horde.
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/7/78855/2179439-Pandaren_Choose_Your_Destiny.png
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Thank you for enlightening me.
You’re welcome, hope it helps you come to embrace your void brethren rather than belittle them because they aren’t exactly what you wanted.
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I’m not belittling them. Just about people who genuinely think they are some sort o replacement.
Also, I am well aware it is extremely unlikely Blizzard will ever add true High Elves to the Alliance. I just don’t understand why some people seem to get some sadistic satisfaction from the fact that others will never get what they have always longed for.
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personally I don’t see neutral races as a mistake. I think more should happen in the future similar to how pandaren were. Not big nations joining the factions but instead small groups.
The tuskarr for instance is a race that I can’t see completely aligning with just one of the factions. If they are made playable they would have to be neutral.
High elves and blood elves however should not be a neutral race option. It makes no sense. They don’t come from the same group when you enter the game. They both have distinct cultures and allegiances already. They don’t even live in the same cities and towns. They don’t even live in the same nations.
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High Elf lore - blood elves that traveled abroad before Arthas. The few non-blood elf characters that exist are the relatively low ambassadors, merchants, Dalaran citizens, and a few that married outside their race. That can’t account for an entire race. Void Elves don’t account for a whole race either, they are relatively low in number.
Model-wise I think few horde players would care if you have High Elves. Lore wise it makes very little sense. Most high elves are just traveling abroad. Think about US citizens in France who want to call themselves a separate nation because they live in France but were born as US citizens. You could fit them all probably in a single embassy. That’s what you are dealing with as the High Elf population.
But…
And yet, here we are.
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Also lore-wise most High Elves shouldn’t be loyal to the Alliance either. If they were “loyal” they would be Blood Elves. The Alliance were terrible to the High Elves. I can see them being loyal to the Kirin Tor since the Kirin Tor isn’t an Alliance faction. They face constant prejudice from the Night Elves.
High elves, even in playable character numbers, just don’t make sense in lore.
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The only solution is to allow Alliance players to roll High Elf toons. The Thalassian race is an Alliance race.
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the kirin tor and dalaran are part of the alliance. The difference between the alliance and horde is the horde is a dictatorship where all must obey the warchief while the alliance is an alliance of nations that otherwise are independent to do as they wish.
also why do people like you keep associating blood elves as high elves? They are not. We don’t care about quel’thelas and its’ people. When we say we want high elves we are not talking about them.
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I think the anti-High Elf people have to be the most toxic group of people in this game, which is quite the achievement. You’re beating out the “no Flying, no sub” whiners and Asmongold teenage fanboys. Impressive. Most impressive.
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I find these sort of ideas interesting because of how they change the status quo. Making a race go “neutral” and play a political conflict would certainly be very interesting.
But then you have the issue of taking away a core race from the Horde. Is that fair? No, it isn’t. In the true spirit of fairness, or even balance, you’d have to give one of the alliance races the same treatment, only then it would be fair.
The Vrykul (or other race) could work in some aspects by giving the horde a new exlusive race, but you have a completely different context that would not be equivalent to the last 16 years of BE lore on the horde. The most fair approach would be to give the same treatment to one of the core races of the alliance.
Which one would be? I mean for starters we already don’t have any possible counterpart in terms of High Elves on the Alliance for the horde, so even there true fairness isn’t possible, but let’s run with it anyway.
-Eredar could be an option, how “redeemed” this group would be has a lot of breathing room.
-Give the Worgen curse to a Horde race. Most likely candidate? Maybe Nightborne through their NE connection, or lets get wild and say Frostwolf Orcs for thematic purposes.
-We still have a group of rogue Dark Iron Dwarves, they could go Horde for reasons.
-Human like Undead, like Nathanos. More “lively” looking.
-Forsaken Night Elves. They are already been risen.
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You’re…not very bright are you?
Those same highelves that were assisting the old Alliance…became the Bloodelves. They are the rangers from Quel’thalas that were sent out to assist…then returned.
Alliances change. Races change.
Incorrect. Highelves have been fairweather friends at best. The majority of them (and thus what is referenced when mentioning them) did NOT want to interact with humanity and now the majority of them stand against it.
What you’re referencing is the Silver covenant, and they didnt even become an established organization until much later.
Learn the lore in order to use it.
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