The titans had no right

“Ordering” the world. What a joke.
It doesn’t matter what cosmic force is doing it - control ain’t right. Whether you’re a servant of the Light, of Nature, Order, Fel, the Void, or Death - each of these had done it’s best to exert a set of rules and regulations to how free will exists -

And we’ve got to stop them all.
No more worlds influenced by gods and demons. No more elemental cultures chained into pocket dimensions because they’re “too rowdy”. No more civilizations altered and brainwashed to fit a specific purpose -
We’ve gotta free the universe from this game they all play -

We need them all gone. The void lords, the Lightmother, the Titans, the Eternal ones - scrap it all. Depose them. Build a reality that has its own agency for once.

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Someone has to take control over the world.If not the titans, it’ll be the strongest being in said reality.

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Welcome to Cosmic Forces 101.

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Nope. We’re stopping that. The second a despot rises we’re spilling blood as a civilization. No leaders. No power imbalance. No control.
Freedom or heads are rolling.

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Strength (or “Fitness”, if you want to be specific) = Justice
Control/Order > Chaos

That’s how existence works.

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I mean, there was a slumbering World Soul that will awaken as a Titan. I think the Titans have a lot of right to defend a child of their own race. Just my two coppers on the matter.

I also tend to feel that the Titans are far less egocentric than other cosmic forces. The Chronicles gives us their version of the cosmic chart. No power is larger than any other, and the Titans put the Light and Void at the top and bottom of the chart, rather than themselves and Chaos. Compare to the Shadowland’s version of the cosmic chart where Life and Death take up those positions with much larger and more intricate images.

As I mentioned in another thread, the Titans don’t even seem to consider a timeline in which they win to be the, ‘True Timeline,’ either. So, clearly failure/defeat is something they’re willing to endure if it means the greater universe benefits.

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This is the world I seek to burn irl. Gonna shatter it to ashes.

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Too bad you can’t fight existence itself.
Try joining the Jailer.

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No heads will be rolling. All riot will be controlled by the ones in Power.

If you kill a despot, another one will take its place.

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Without the Titans we would all be eyeballs or tentacles.

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This is fair! That’s not what I’m talking about. You can work with the mortal cultures to save your kin, without doing some morally ambiguous flesh-shaping and brainwashing.

You’ve got too much faith in despots.

I mean… that’s kind of what the Keepers did with the Dragons though. They worked with them to defend Azeroth. Part of that was imbuing them with the power to do so. This in return altered the proto-dragons into new, evolved forms. They didn’t really force these transformations on anyone. Iridikron and the others refused, and were left alone until they decided to attack the dragons that had opted to defend their world.

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Who gave us free will?

The old gods.

I’d rather side with the old gods and have them turn against their void lords.

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They infused eggs. Dragons still in the shell, unable to choose whether or not to receive the titans’ “gifts”. There are Titan logs describing adding order magic to the water to ensure there will be no future threat of rebellion.
Brainwashing from birth.

So basically, you just want to watch the world burn.

:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Humans have no right to animals yet I’m sure many of us have pets.
To Titans, I’m sure we’re like cats and dogs.

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Hey, good point.
Part of the reason I’m against having living things as property.
Should be like bees. If you aren’t a good neighbor or partner, they’ll leave.

Anything that can think and feel should have that choice.

Except free will doesn’t exist…

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As was decided by the dragons. Parental consent, basically. “Yes, I’d like it if little timmy wasn’t born with a debilitating illness that can still be fixed in the womb with a painless and non-invasive procedure that doesn’t risk his life.”

OP just read some books and is having a row with whatever creation myth they were born into. Oh rebellion, you’re so cute but also so boring lol

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