The Titans are often described as a Pantheon of “Order”, and according to the cosmology chart there’s quite a few other forces that have their respective powers, like the Light and the Naaru, or the Void and the Void Lords/Dimensius/Old Gods, but it’s quite clear in game that in the realm of the Great Dark Beyond (Space, reality) the Titans are the strongest. So why would that be?
One of the very few things I actually like about SL is the new Broker cosmology chart, where all the manifestations of the powers are gone, and the Titans are no longer placed as “Order” aligned.
So what are the Titans? They’re a force of reality, or of nature, not nature as in life or trees, but as fundamental laws of the WoW universe. They’ve been around since the first formation of accretion disks, and their coalescing into planets. The Titans aren’t, excepting Norgannon, beings of the Arcane like the original chart said, but wield a multitude of forces. Eonar with life, Aman’thul with time, Khazgaroth and Golganeth with water, earth, fire, and perhaps even light going by what powers their respective keepers were given mastery over, Aggramar and Sargeras possibly also had light and spirit, Argus had death. And also from the lore, Agrammar for instance found Draenor overwhelmed with an all consuming life, I think this was the same thing in the Everbloom dungeon, so he created a massive cyclops construct to battle it. We can see the same being from the Everbloom in Eonar’s Antorus encounter.
So the Titans go around “ordering” the cosmos, but not for the force of “Order” in the chart, as represented by arcane, as arcane is an inherently chaotic power. They do it because that’s just what their nature is, these custodians of reality ensuring that no planet is wholly corrupted by any one force. I’m sure they’ve probably seen Light, or Death, or Order blighted worlds and just like they did with Azeroth and Draenor, wiped it clean of the contagion to ensure they are more balanced, and set up a blank slate.
They are Arcane and are susceptible to Fel, which is how Sarg was able to smack them all down. You are correct about them not being purely Order aligned, though. There is clearly more to them than ORDER, ARCANE, REINHARDT, REINHARDT, REINHARDT! HAHAA!
There are at least some superficial similarities to the constellar to consider as well.
I would have to emphasize with great care… that you should not be saying that Argus ever had any default connection to death. Argus was a Titan with inherent Arcane power alongside his other powers…when the Eredar race rose into sentience because of exposure to that arcane Argunite crystallized essence on his surface. Long before the naaru ever visited Argus, and long before Sargeras ever showed up to exploit him. The exposure of Argus to death magic was artificially induced from the outside by Nathrezim scheming under the lax supervision of Sargeras during the formation and rule of the Burning Legion.
Also, I would not say that Norgannon was a being of the Arcane…only that he studied and mastered arcane magic because he was interested in it. The arcane beings like Aluneth and the ones seen in the Nexus seem very different from Titans and I wouldn’t be surprised if Norgannon controlled and limited their chaotic behaviors from doing too much in reality.
I don’t think the Titans are a force, really…I just think they are a rare type of being out here in the reality dimension of the great dark beyond that can interact or be interfered with by all the forces that were already there before them.
I would agree with your sentiment that “They do it because that’s just what their nature is” although I would include in that nature the quality of sentience that allows them to consider ethical consequences of their great power. And for them to realize the consequences of inaction…where they could have acted to prevent a harm.
How would Argunite be the Argus equivalent of Azerite? The reason Azeroth bled everywhere was the Titans yanking out Y’shaarj and later Sargeras stabbing the planet.
Are you telling me Argus had Old Gods and the Titans seemingly found a way to remove them entirely, but never applied that knowledge to Azeroth?
We have Azerite and Saronite, both of which refer to the blood of a God like being. Azeroth and Yogg-saron respectively. Then you have Argunite and even Sargerite there seems to be a pattern there. Azerite, Argunite, Sargerite. Each having the name of a Titan and the suffix ‘ite’. Factor in Saronite, the blood of Yogg-saron and it seems that Blizzard uses ‘ite’ to mean blood. As in Azerite is the blood of Azeroth. Argunite is the blood of Argus. Sargerite is the blood of Sargeras. Which is funny as there is a material from Legion called ‘blood of Sargeras’ but then we get Primal Sargenite with patch 7.3. Hell, Aqirite could be crystalized Blood of the Aqir. Given the mining journal does say that it grows in prevalence as you get closer to Azj-Kahet. Then you have Khaz’gorite from Dragonflight. Blood of Khaz’goroth maybe? The mining journal does say it is extremely rare to find these days.
Is it grasping at straws? Probably. But it does seem very deliberate.
As for how Argunite could be acquired? Maybe the same way Gallywix first found Azerite. Maybe someone dug too deep, or a major natural disaster led to Argunite to leak into an underground river or into a cave.
Although Monalite and Osmenite from BFA does put a dent in this. But I feel that they could be the exception.
“ite” is just a suffix to signify minerals.
Although I do like the idea that all of the ones with names attached to some god being is in fact their blood. Maybe Khaz’goroth got a cosmic papercut or something and bled onto the area that became the Dragon Isles
Would explain why the Dragon Isles has stronger elemental activity compared to other areas of Azeroth. Given that the Dragon Isles were never part of pre-shundering Kalimdor
Wild headcanon here but what if Draenite was the blood of Grond and the Draenei (whom named Draenor, Draenor) called it Draenite instead. A lot of what we see of Draenor in WoD was formed from the corpse of Grond after all.
I would say that any mineral that has the name of an entity in it is most likely that entities blood, turned into a mineral. Although we only have confirmation about two of them. Those being Azerite and Saronite. I would argue Sargenite is the blood of Sargeras given that the Blood of Sargeras is an actual crafting material in Legion and we get “primal Sargerite” during our adventures on Argus. Similar to how we got Primal Saronite from killing bosses in Icecrown Citadel. While regular Saronite was a mining material.
Argunite was established to have been naturally occurring with arcane power all over the planet Argus…no old gods, no injury, no stabbing. They do mention that it used to be very abundant at the surface of Argus in the past, but as soon as being exposed to that caused the animalistic Eredar ancestors to develop sentience and start forming a civilization; then they as a civilization gathered up and used all of that abundant Argunite in their technology…and after that, if you wanted to find more, you had to start digging.
Never said any of that. To my knowledge there were never any Old Gods on Argus. Argus is a Titan, himself. Whatever arcane power he could produce was innate to him. Whether he was consciously making the Eredar speed up their emergence into sentience or if Argus was sleeping most of the time and doing it automatically…it doesn’t say. Works either way, though. Eredar are created by Argus.
Yes, eredar using it to power their technology is established. His nonsense about it somehow granting sentience to “animalistic Eredar ancestors” is purely made up.
I also don’t see how Argus’ blood would be so readily available to base the entire eredar technology and culture on while Azeroth who had a massive opened wound that later exploded didn’t have Azerite just everywhere until after getting stabbed by Sargeras.