Aman’Thul gave Nozdormu his powers over time it self. If this is the case, Aman’Thul is far more powerful, and wiser, especially in matters of time, than Nozdormu. Aman’Thul was born with these immense powers. They are inherent to him. We know Nozdormu could see the future, ergo Aman’Thul could see the future.
So why didnt Aman’Thul see into the future and realize Sargeras would go crazy and kill them all, and have a plan in place to prevent this from happening?
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Because some things can’t be avoided.
A being of Aman’Thul’s power having the knowledge of time would likely have the wisdom to know that meddling with it is not a good idea, even if it means your own death. After all, Nozdormu will eventually become crazy and became Murozond trying to meddle with it, and then we’ll kill him.
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We know he has mastery over Temporal Control, we don’t know if we was born with these powers or if they’re inherent.
From what Elisande said there are multiple futures, he probably saw a lot of timelines, in many Sargeras was probably a good guy, in others he went mad. In WoW it’s been shown that knowing the future can’t help you prevent it, too. Ex. Nozdormu becoming Murozond.
Unless you have the PIS Blizzard said about the god-like PC, that ‘‘time works differently around us’’
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To be fair it seems like Argus was born with his death energy powers. He hasn’t had much time to learn anything while under legion slavery. No direct evidence, but its reasonable to assume each Titan is born with specific powers, Aman’Thul over time, Eonar over life Golganneth over storms and seas, Argus over death etc.
Sure, speculating is alright, but the problem arises when you use wording to make it seem like hard-fact evidence.
See, much better.
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And so forth Rivendel the elf supreme shall go state it as fact that aman’thul in a way created the elves and this that makes elves supreme,
Please send Garithos again
I mean, I know when to call out his BS, but it was a problem of wording more than anything here.
It was a legitimate question, too.
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Do you think we will get more background info on Argus in Shadowlands since you think he had power of death/death powers? I mean Shadowlands being a realm of death and all.
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Nah,
He’s utterly in denial & looks for ways to twist information for the benefit of being an elf,
He wishes he was an elf LOL
Well, Aman’thul has stated that there is only one “true” timeline and that nobody can change it, though they might want to. I like to think of him kind of like Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen. He has a different perspective on time than we do. He is aware of every moment of his life simultaneously. From his point of view, every moment is “happening” right now, happened in the past, and will happen in the future, and he can see them all. That also makes him powerless to change it, though. Since every moment is equally his “present,” it’s already happening and it could only happen that way. One event leads into the next in an unbroken chain, and the whole chain is already crystallized from his perspective.
I agree with this. If I recall correctly, during the Chromie Scenarios in Legion, her concern isn’t that she dies, but that she’s dying at the wrong time. Seems to me that “preserving the timeline” is often the ultimate duty of anyone with time control powers and some sense of authority. And that’s a pretty archetypical trait of time travelers across many settings.
It depends on how you view time travel theory.
In this instance, it’d subscribe to the idea that; what is fated to happen, will always happen. The how might change, but the result remains the same.
It is also important to note that out of all of the timelines she saw, none of them had us winning (Hence she sided with the Legion). And yet it happened. Which is why she gives us some control over the Eye of Aman’thul to defeat Gul’dan.
I peered into all possible futures in search for an answer… and found only one.
The Legion’s victory is inevitable. Every time stream shows it to be so.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Grand_Magistrix_Elisande_(tactics)
I prefer to see it that you can’t actually predict the future, as the future is never set in stone. So while you can look into the future, sometimes the outcomes you see may never happen and the outcomes you don’t see actually do happen.
There is multiple Timelines but the Timeline the Time Master is actually in cannot be viewed unless you use Blood Magic which is a Sacrificial Magic just as Fel Magic is and Sacrificial Magic is considered the most vile of Magics by the Titans.
Even before he gave up his Aspect Powers Nozdormu couldn’t see his own Timeline’s future and had before that point assumed that the End Time Timeline he was looking at was his own Timeline until he agreed to use the Dragon Soul against Deathwing and soon discovered he was blindsided since he couldn’t see his Timeline’s future.
Sargeras became a Demon in this Timeline and as such Aman’Thul couldn’t see his transformation into a Demon even if he could see his already transformed self become a Demon.
Gazing into the True Timeline’s future is impossible!
“Fate” is what happens when you allow events to unfold as they are set to do.
In other words, it’s what happens when you do nothing. But just because one actor does not have then power to manipulate events, does not mean events can not be altered.
Kilrogg Deadeye and his Father were able to see their own deaths just by sacrificing their eyes.
Even AU Kilrogg was able to predict his future(which supposedly had been altered) accurately recognizing his death at the Raiders’ hands as the one he saw!
As for Sacrificial Magic being considered vile:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Seeking_the_Soulstones#Blade.27s_Edge_Memory
Doomguard says: Sacrificial magic was considered the greatest violation of life and we were attuned to instantly punish those who delved into such… delicious sorcery.
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