The TBC Classic Community wants Dual Spec

This clearly explains you are definitely living in fossil age and you don’t want to get out of that nostalgia. I am sorry that I expected exactly who I thought you’d be.

Regardless, there has been twitter and reddit polls that OP mentioned from devs are trying to change something. Idk if you missed it completely, but they definitely are on the agenda to push the #somechange campaign. Because they know they are losing players and people are losing interests.

If they were confident, they wouldn’t have sent email to their players if people are considering to move to ff14 and what they can do to improve their community.

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Oh that’s rich. So you’re better? You played TBC like me, you moved on to retail like me. However, unlike me you can’t stand it, but you won’t give it up. You like TBC but you won’t accept it for what it is.

So what exactly does this say about you as a person? Have you considered moving on and finding a product that suits you instead of spitting on something that was already established as it is? Of course not. You won’t move on, they never do. You’d rather whine and moan about how awful it is the game you like isn’t like the game you won’t play.

Try playing something else for a change. You might actually find a game that caters to your needs. Nostalgia isn’t a bad thing. I recognize the games for their flaws and appreciate what they’ve done right. You? You’re never happy and the product will never be good enough for you. I say that in itself for a business is infinitely more damaging. High maintenance much?

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Pretty sure you are as whiny that you don’t want changes and you’d quit the game because it ruins your immersion on nostalgia.

Try filling out the survey. They had been asking if people want new changes for fresh start realms in classic.

I voted yes anyways. Why not. Changes aren’t always bad. It’s a lesson to learn what classic should have had to fix something right.

Retail has its own flaws and dual spec definitely isn’t one of them.

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Idk about you but when I play TBC it isn’t how it was in 2007. It’s elitist minmax mentality. Mechanics are boring and I just play on autopilot (which I do on retail too). It isn’t like how I enjoyed it in 2007, everything is fresh and exciting. We know everything there is to know. The game is on perma farm by mages 24/7 so the economy is ruined. There’s layering, spell batching etc. I like TBC and enjoy it but not to the extent of how I enjoyed it as it was then. That’s why I think having SOME changes is good. It makes it fresh and adds to QoL so that I can continue to enjoy it instead of leveling a mage to farm me gold so I can buy raid consumes every week and to respec from pvp to pve for my raid.

Then play retail. Look, you were never sold TBC Classic as “The next big thing.” This isn’t like Warlords of Draenor where it’s “Revisit the past” and it’s a whole new experience. This was sold to you as a classic recreation of a classic game. Nowhere in the fine print do I see “Now with dual spec action.” Dual spec isn’t on the original TBC, nowhere do I see the description of features in this Classic version to say “With dual spec” so where you get the idea Dual Spec is on the table is beyond me.

If you need the next big “new” thing. Then move on to the next big “new” thing. The Classic community exists because people wanted a Classic gaming experience. And if you aren’t here to appreciate it and enjoy it for what it is. Why are you playing it instead of something else that meets your criteria? What is the issue exactly?

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And where at all was the option of dual spec sold to you in this exactly? You can “want” a QoL change all you’d like. But you joined with absolutely no promises of Dual Spec. So if anything that’s on you, not those of us who saw it and signed up for it as it is. If you don’t like it as it is, then don’t play it. It really is a simple concept. I as well as others signed up knowing Dual spec wasn’t in it. It’s part of why we wanted to join, and it’s how Blizzard sold it to us. So why are you here exactly if the product knowingly didn’t have what you wanted in it? What did you hope to gain by playing a product you won’t accept as is?

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Still don’t get the concept on the reason why somechanges isn’t retail, and it clearly proves you never played actual retail expansions to get what changed from classics.

Are you going to not play WotLK when they add Dual Spec? Or are you fine with dual spec, that comes out literally on launch of WotLK? I’d get your argument if we were talking about something from 5 expansions into the future. I signed up thinking it would be like TBC too, but here we are, with changes that weren’t in the original TBC :slight_smile:

They said they aren’t going to play Wotlk and stay in tbc forever.

At this point they are just either having some nostalgia way too much or just biggest troll for nochange ranter.

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“Some Changes” is taking changes that were placed in later versions of the game and still exist to some degree in retail. As it currently stands Retail WoW from Vanilla to where it is now, is Retail. Retail Vanilla and TBC did not have these features. Retail Wrath onward has the system in place and even improved.

So what is the problem here? You don’t like the product, and won’t accept it as it is. Why are you playing it?

I’ll leave these characters in TBC and play Wrath fresh, with the systems as they were built around Dual Spec. The massive level of changes to accommodate the system were designed for it and as such there is no issue. Blizzard itself began to rebrand the game at that point. They are different design concepts.

How about a solution to everyone’s problem. They add dual spec but only on specific servers. They give free transfers to those servers for those who want it? So you don’t some how get effected by other people not spending 100g per respec. Idk how it ruins the game for YOU personally, just don’t dual spec. The same argument you give everyone else. “don’t like tbc then don’t play it” okay don’t get dual spec.

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Yep, this pretty much sums up where I stand on this.

I don’t think dual spec will work well in TBC but if they decided to add it I hope they’d do so with nuance, and I’d play the game as it’s presented to me.

I’ve seen the surveys for a Classic + experience. Something like that wouldn’t bother me at all. But in no way was I advertised Classic TBC as a “But with extras!” experience. For the overall health of the game I think a Classic + type of server would serve some folks just fine.

I say let BC Classic run it’s course as it is. And when it comes the day of reckoning let players have an option. Push on to Wrath, Stay TBC Classic, or go to a Classic + realm where they can experience everything with dual spec.

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I’d pay that.

More extras are coming. I hope you’re ready:

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i would consider maining a prot warrior if dual specs were a thing

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Those were pre nerf though. Honestly I wish they had stuck with the soul crushingly hard encounters.

Yeah the amount of gold I’ve spent on respecs is more than 100 dollars if I was to RMT

What’s stopping you right now?