After reading this topic this poll doesn’t seem so clear cut to me 
I think you misunderstand my point:
I don’t care about dual spec.
I do care if it leads to capitulation for lfr or lfd.
There is a limit on what is beneficial and what is an overshot.
I’ve heard the term slippery slope in these forums in the last month more than I have my entire life
If Dual Spec was not in TBC, then it should not be added. QoL changes are what destroyed old school WoW and made it retail. Want Dual Spec? Play WotLK.
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I only go by the fact that they tend to overdo things. If they only put in dual spec fine. There are already posts asking for more than just dual spec.
Yea I think most people move the goal post of the discussion from Dual spec to LFG because it’s hard to defend being against dual spec
I’m sure you, some special needs antisocial man-child who jumps to extremes to try and disguise his flawed argument, knows what people want. Ok dude. Nobody is asking for shadowlands bull crap, nobody wants the game fundamentally changed. Dual spec is just making respeccing free, that’s not a huge deal. It’s still the same tbc talents. Nothing to do with shadowlands.
Like I said, no problem with dual spec. It doesn’t do anything but eliminate a gold sink.
It may help the game when most of the playerbase realizes they can’t clear anything because it’s not faceroll classic and comp matters.
“Slippery slope” is a terrible argument against dual spec itself. However, it’s a valid argument against overdoing convenience.
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Imagine your argument being “play a different game” lol what are you even trying to say cuz it has nothing to do with the subject at hand (tbc)
Yes it does. If you want elements added to a game that didn’t have them back in the day, then go play a game or expac that has them. Hence, my original statement stands.
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Ahh that delusion again, QoL did not destroy WoW at all and you have zero proof of that.
Yeah the anti QOL crowd try to come here to speak “numbers” about how “no one” wants Dual Spec etc. I love when we get actual statistics that shut these elitists down. Thanks for this post OP <3
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Proof? Retail. Goodnight
Those type of guilds are not the norm. Regardless. They are usually a group of like minded people that want to take advantage of every possible tool in the game. If its there They want to use it. YOU DONT. Which means you dont belong in one of those guilds. You want a free ride to gear. You want to do as little as possible to be part of the best. I hope your guild finds out your mentality and kicks you so you can be replaced by a player that has the same desires as the other members of that guild.
here’s one: blizzard can’t make any money from it. in fact, they make more money by waiting until wrath classic so they can get you dual spec dolts to play that game as well. so enjoy waiting.
Retail’s entire talent system and class design is a joke. It’s not comparable at all. TBC’s best asset is that class matters. Retail class design is still some mess pertaining to an attempt to make WoW relevant as an esport.
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that makes sense. they butchered wow in an attempt to cash in on the esport craze. sad
So, the issue isn’t really those who are for or against it at this point.
It’s that the “evidence” isn’t clear cut. A non-scientific poll of less than 1% of the player base is far from proof.
I’m for QOL, I’d love to see Dual Spec, the issue is that it is a slippery slope. As, it was one of the many attempts at increasing support classes for 5 mans. Those attempts eventually became LFD and other changes that (imo) destroyed the game by the end of MoP.
QOL is totally cool, if it fits in context. Right now, Dual Spec doesn’t fit in TBC context. Especially when you don’t have the same variety of raiding and PVP as we did in Wrath.
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Oh boy oh boy, you just gave me a couple hours of work here to disect all this nonsense.
- I don’t care what a youtuber’s poll shows. It is completely meaningless and furthermore majority rule means nothing. If you design by comittee you are a moron because contrary to popular belief, people do in fact, sometimes don’t know what they want.
- 1401 responses is less than a single realm, 21k is more impressive but his community is going to sway in one direction, because thats the people who enjoy and engage with his content. But again it is logical falacy to appeal to the quorum.
- I don’t see that, I see alot of people creating threads in favor of dual spec, but then when you look at the comments the majority of the comments (and hearts) are anti dual spec. AGAIN this doesn’t mean ANYTHING because people who are anti dual spec are going to be drawn to these posts. Again you are promoting the exact same logical falacy as in 1 & 2.
- There have been a ton “more” arguments made against dual spec than it is just a gold sink. I have made several of them you can just go re-read some of my posts.
- No one cares about 5k gold.
- There is no merit to debate, go play tbc with dual spec right now, it exists in shadowlands and leave classic tbc alone or wait until wrath.
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Peoples opinions and experiences aren’t meaningless, if that were true and you really believe that then your entire post is meaningless and you should delete it.
Are made by a select few elitests, comments by unique poster in support are much higher, than comments by unique poster against, just like the polls… around 80/20 in favor.
Blizzard already added QoL changes, you’re welcome.