The stigma against twinking never warranted this

why aren’t you guys making threads trying to get more people into twinking/into your twink guilds so you can have games instead of just not queueing because you can’t roll noobs?

also, kem, i’m so jelly of your weapon. D:

I don’t know, I think I’d at least want enchants because then you at least have some control over your stats. I miss reforging too honestly. And set bonuses. WoD had so many problems but that was some of the most fun I’ve had pvping. MoP too. Everything was broken, and thus balance was achieved (mostly). :rofl:

It is a blizzard related issue, they’re killing off the game for a portion of players in favor of players who are either not good at PvP, or too lazy to gear their characters half decently.

There’s literally websites, discords, etc dedicated to twinking. Even when they weren’t separated that would have been a chore.

Why can’t people just play the game they want to play it?

Only if they put chests and rares on a server to server phasing. Otherwise good luck on ever taming Loque’nakhatever or getting the “monocle” from Shadowmoon Valley

And from what is being said that number of players is so insignificant it can be almost impossible to fill a single game a day, according to this thread.

If that is going to get fixed, it’s not going to be on blizzard’s end i can guarantee you that.

Yeah I dunno, I’d rather deal with that than constantly play a game that feels like a dead private server.

if you’re passionate about twinking/your twinks and want games then it wouldn’t be a “chore” as you’d be doing something that would be fun and good for you in the long run. it’s easy to sit in a queue to pwn noobs. it’s not easy to sit and work your butt off to make your community happen so you can play equally geared/skilled players. which is what twinks always said they wanted, but as soon as they get it… they stop queueing.

Kinda like the flying argument or the portal argument or many other argument that currently exist.

Tbh most twinks(personal friends and the like) are waiting for vanilla. Going to just start over on a game that isn’t ruined by constant crying. It’s not that people have given up, but they have given up on retail.

Also, no community and reputation not meaning jack ruins the game.

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the same people who play retail are gonna be playing classic. and the same things are gonna happen. you do realize the things that were changed were because people who were subbed wanted it? they will be forced to change things up and the same thing will happen in classic that happened in retail. they can’t just open up the servers and say “kk you guys are on your own, gl”

Thank you for telling me how I feel and what I like and what I don’t like. It’s not like twinking is the ONLY thing people ever do.

For a lot of people It’s a casual thing that they do every now and then, another reason why It’s so hard to get into ques. I don’t think there’s any twink that ONLY plays their twink all day every day.

I guess you just don’t understand what you’re talking about. Trying to keep a twink community alive for every bracket is impossible and silly to suggest.

Yes It’s easier to join a que system with a bunch of players and have fun than whatever you’re suggesting.

Why should players have to do all that work just to enjoy the game? Why can’t we just all have the same que and enjoy the game?

It’s silly that people like you insinuate that anyone who’s not in xp-off is a noob, by the way.

They get that without seperate day long ques, though. Many twinks say one of their favorite things to do is fight other twinks in the BGs. They’re able to do that when they were merged because que times were low.

Yeah, twinks kill undergeared crappy players. Nobodies saying they don’t and nobodies saying they ONLY kill other twinks in games, so you don’t have to pretend otherwise. :roll_eyes:

I don’t (and probably won’t ever) enjoy pvp, so I don’t really have any ground to judge people who enjoy twinking.

However, I think it’s pretty silly to expect Blizzard to spend any time or resources at all on making non-current content better for a small percentage of the playerbase when the current end-game still needs a lot of work. This change is probably coming from a desire to keep new or returning players interested in the game long enough to get to max level. I would really prefer a doubling down on making current content better, to be honest.

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Which is something I agree on. I’d be fine with them turning XP off into a separate bracket during the first X amount of months a new race is released. It would reduce a lot of the whining in the forums and It’s not like twinks are the ONLY thing people who twink, play.

I mean one of the main reasons people twink is because end game is so boring and bad.

Its been a week - for those of you happy twinking was moved out of leveling - is it better? Are you getting over run less? Do BGs feel more balanced overall?

Been focusing on other aspects of the game, just curious if the change made a difference.

They already said there won’t be any changes. I’m going to build a rep pretty quick on my battlegroup/server. I’ll probably be on a top end raiding guild as well and just farm people all day. Better than sitting in queues doing nothing on retail.

OMG! I knew a Stryfe druid! I also knew a Stryfe rogue. I mean I wasn’t like friends with them, the rogue was in our raid group. The druid was before the rogue… were… were… we on the same realm back in the day?? O.O

There was also a Kitty druid in Wraith that terrorized hordies. Wish I could remember her name. Many, many threads were made on the forums about her. I watched her completely wreck a group of 5 hordies one time. I was in awe! I think her name began with an M. Melody or something?

I’ve only played on Bleeding Hollow, Ruin battlegroup.

Except that’s one of the core things people who want vanilla, want. For it to be just like vanilla. Which includes twinking. Twinking was a lot bigger back in the day than it is now. I’ll probably only be playing vanilla when it releases due to this fact.

Retail is pandering to vocal whiners, now. Nerfing every racial into the ground before races are even released, giving one side an unfair advantage because they complained about dying in WM (which is OPTIONAL to turn on…? ), one faction getting a perment 50% extra honor buff for 4+ years now.

It’s getting beyond ridiculous.

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you’re complaining because alliance get more honor? 0.o you’re also complaining because blizz did something to combat the WM so that horde could have people to fight so they could finish the WM quests. 0.o

i have more horde toons by a lot than i do alliance toons so this is not an ally fangirl thing. i’m genuinely curious.