The State of Earthen Ring

Some folks have been asking me or in general about the current state of Earthen Ring, how merging might happen, what else we can do. Having been making efforts to keep the server afloat for years, I can say that I just don’t know. I’m burnt out on it. Maybe Dragonflight will breath some life into me again (with respect to WoW), but I doubt it. In trying to put together a healthy community on the server, really all I’ve done is just bring people under my guild’s umbrella because it’s was mostly all I could reliably offer. And, sure, our guild is active and lively, I am forced to draw conclusions from this.

Either Blizzard thinks what we’re doing is enough and server is fine, or Blizzard thinks the server was already fine as is. As I’ve told some folks, every once in a while, around expansion launches, the server spikes in pop and sometimes hit Medium pop. Additionally, there’s still lots of random players in old guild that they refuse to leave that still play their own way. RP may even happen, I just don’t see it ever. I don’t have access to the data, and Blizzard hasn’t ever contacted me despite my attempts.

There are some things I’m still willing to do. If @Blizzard wants to contact me, they still can. I’m always happy to chat about things and it’d feel great to work with people that maybe actually get some stuff done. Additionally, if DF brings a lot of people back, I may start to push for existing Communities to expand, so that people have more access to the kind of play they wanna do. Such as it is, I’ve put together a Discord for Earthen Ring that’s fairly quiet, and I have Valor, a guild that is very active, but can only home so many and definitely is intended toward people that want to do a lot of the game’s group play, or facilitate it, like through grinding out rare mounts, mog, or pets that we give away at in-game parties.

Ultimately, I wonder if the server isn’t so dead as much as it is chock full of isolated people and groups: Some clinging to an old guild that’s slowly lost players and can’t do much in terms of content or event organization. Some just in an “alt guild” that they made for themselves and moved all their toons into as whatever guild they were in died so they could have more storage space for their solo endeavors. Some refusing to join a guild because they haven’t have a positive experience in one yet, and just assume all guilds are somehow bad. Some just not caring enough either way and have gotten used to playing alone, or PuGing, or LFR/LFD since you can gain access to everything from them alone. There’s a ton of ways to be invisible in this game to everyone but Blizzard. If we haven’t been merged yet, I have to conclude that Blizz has a good reason for it. They’d merged other servers that were worse off than us. Perhaps we’re not that bad?

All I can offer is this: If you want to play the game, as long as it’s not RP, I can help you. And if their is some RPer or group of RPers that want to build something for themselves, I will also help as best as I can with that, as well, but I’m limited in that department. I can offer game play in terms of Raids, M+ and possibly PvP. Otherwise, we may have to accept the possibility that, for better or worse, in Blizzard’s eyes, we are fine.

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I’m genuinely concerned about Earthen Ring’s server population locking me out of one of the major box features of this expansion – the new profession system, and more specifically, crafting orders.

Why would I spend a ton of gold in week 1 to level professions on my home server, only to not have many people to sell to? I’m going to, but I likely won’t recoup day 1 expenses for a while. Blizz needs to correct this, but of course we’re all preaching to the choir here.

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Even if they don’t want to full on connect realms they should at least connect auction houses, it feels so bad getting a rare transmog item knowing that it will never sell.

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Is there a special channel everyone uses? I haven’t seen anyone in chat since launch?

I genuinely don’t get it. What’s the point of refusing to connect us? We’re already phased with the realms we’re clustered with or whatever the term is. It’s not like this is an old school standalone realm for the people who want that: we’ve got plenty of the parts of being connected those folks wouldn’t like and none of the benefits.

We have kept raiding this long with a lot of cross realm players. I love our cross realmers, but they’re never quite as close knit as the people who are in-guild. Depending on Btags and a cross realm chat community isn’t the same as seeing people pop up in green chat. We have people every now and again make the leap and come join us over here, but I almost feel bad about it because let’s face it, we’re inviting them to a really rough realm economy wise. (Which we are FULLY transparent about: we complain about our AH all the time.)

The entire point of this game is your community. Sure, individual players could transfer to busier realms, but we’re here for our people. We’re here for the old friends who log in at the start of an expac because they saw an ad and got nostalgic. We’re here because this is our place, and if we lose it, we lost a big piece of what makes WoW fun for us. I’d venture to say most of the people who are still sticking it out on ER are here because they want to play here, and if Blizzard can’t find a way to support that, more and more of them are going to decide they don’t really want to play WoW anywhere.

Help us out, Blizzard. Community matters, right?

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Our server pop, as of this launch, seems to be staying at Low. This sucks for now, but it’s potentially good for getting us merged. We will still face the issue of being merged with other dead servers most likely, because we’re an RP realm, and most unconnected RP servers save WrA, MG, and ED are dead - er - excuse me, “Low pop.” Connection has helped Blackwater Raiders, Cenarion Circle, Shdow Council, and Sisters of Elune list as Medium pop, but I dunno what the economy or gameplay is like over there. You know you have a real problem, though, when they double down on player interaction driving the economy with the new work order system, and there’s NO ORDERS. The dumpster fire only grows. I guess it’s partially our own fault for getting our hopes up and believing that Blizz would ship something that could be transformative, but I still feel its their responsibility to fix. The amount of effort to get something grassroots going for a -video game- is absurd, especially when we are just flat out ignored for a decade. Last time I recall they engaged with us was in MoP (I THINK, could’a been earlier) when the issue of merging came up, and we, not knowing any better at the time, said no. Fair is fair, though, there were still some RP communities back then, so I can see why resisting a merge then would be ideal to preserve communities and prevent clashes like RPers designating a certain part of a city as a particular thing, as was popular in the SW Park District’s bar. RIP old Park District.

This is something I cannot forgive. Like, the auction house at least worked. It was prohibitively expensive, but it worked. But a MAJOR feature like work orders falling completely flat? I don’t care if they ‘fix’ it later somehow, it should have worked from launch, and it stalls our growth in so many other capacities just because they failed us AGAIN. Player power, economy, social interactions; all that this feature was supposed to bring is a joke compared to other servers, and some damage is already being done. Even if the alt crafting thing persists, that’s still awful because you’re on the hook for 100% of the resources, never make those social connections, never see the economy move, have to sink SO MUCH MORE TIME into getting things done because thank you for forcing us to ‘specialize’. There’s a possibility that there will be very limited orders coming once raid opens up, but imo, the system will still be a DoA failure. That’s not nearly robust enough to make meaningful changes to our economy or server.

Honestly. Since end of SL I’ve been looking for a server to transfer to. I enjoy MG as it’s always busy and active. The problem is that it’s just too damn full and sharding doesn’t really seem to help it.

The first logical step (at least to me, lol) was to check out ED. Blizz labels it as “high population” RP realm. Many players running around but hardly any of them are running TRP3. In a little over 3 weeks of playing there, I have had exactly 2 RP interactions. One of those came right out and told me that the RP is “sadly hidden behind guilds.”. Then, Saturday evening I watched as a couple of players in ED trade chat were very explicit and openly mocking RP’rs, obviously trying hard to offend people and break Blizz’s ToS.

Step 2 is to check out ER. So far so good. Not as full of players as ED but y’all aren’t far off either. I really don’t get how Blizz still tries to use their “realm population” and RP designations. I bet players like me would jump all over it if Blizz gave a free realm transfer to anyone looking to move TO either ER or ED. And yes, Blizz ought to just merge the two RP realms.

Anyways. Just my experience as of late and I’m one of thousands who play WoW so I imagine everyone has a different take.

Have a good one!

Yeah, I’m a bit despondent that I’ve put a lot of work into my blacksmithing and every single time I check the Crafting Orders, there’s simply nothing there. No one is here. I hope it picks up a bit once people actually need gear beyond blues and greens, but man it is DEAD. It’s an expansion launch and no one is using one of the primary features and no one’s in chat.

Yeah, and I’d be happy to put in some legwork to support making RP happen, I just don’t wanna RP myself, at the moment. Also, a LOT of who you see running around are not Earthen Ringers, we’re in a Battlegroup with a bunch of other servers so the world “feels more populated.” We can’t invite them to our guilds or trade them things or anything like that, though.

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I dunno, I’ve given it a bit more thought, and I kinda realized that, especially on dead servers, so much of our economy is moneyless because the prices are enormous. You trade favors, I’ll give you this for that, or you just have things worked out in your guild that people all contribute what they can to make legos happen, or just do it all alone on an army of alts. That’s what we did in a large sense, anyway. Everyone has alts or friends that can at least mine or herb or skin, so whatever you needed, you could get and you just send that to your buddy crafter. A funny side note; even if you provided every material, the tip quantity you’d pay to someone not in your “do things for free” friend circle could still be more than you’d pay for that lego on other servers. But, that digression out of the way, I actually wonder if we need to unlearn and break down those habits to let the system do its work and slowly be adopted? Like, someone wanted me to make them some shovels, and I was about to do it and mail them, but remembered the crafting weekly, and was like Wait. Put in a work order.

That system now can do all the heavy lifting of material organization and figuring out patterns and such. It’s not perfect, of course. I’m not an engineer, for example, and I want the Zapthrottle Soul Inhaler. It requires tons of parts specific to Engineering versus just ore, and I can’t see what raw materials I need to make those parts in the recipe for the gadget. Going through and ordering every one of those parts piece by piece just put me off of the whole thing.

It’s possible that if we change how we think about it and how we approach our own economy, we could MAYBE make it work? But it does need some work from Blizz as well. I, at least, am just so used to my self-contained bubble, and to give the system a fair shake, I now feel I’ve got to get over that.

Unrelated, I can make that and you can just send me a personal order and it’ll be done when I am online :grinning:

You need to finally gimme your Btag or Discord info or something.

If not merge then maybe some free transfers from populated RP realms would suffice

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Sorry if this has been covered or is a common knowledge question, I’m new to these forums. Is there a way to request to Blizz that they offer free server changes for ER? I’m not sure what those merges that were mentioned mean, exactly, but I have some characters that are pretty much dying on ER because I’m very unmotivated to play them with such a strong lack of interaction from other humans while I’m there. I could maybe justify paying for a change for 1 character, but not 6.

I sent them a suggestion regarding that yesterday. Whether they’ll listen though is unknown

I just logged on for the first time in a few years, having skipped the end of Batle for Azeroth and all of Shadowlands.

I created Ortega on Earthen Ring on launch day 19 years ago, and I can only say that walking around Stormwind tonight made me genuinely sad. I have so many memories tied to this server, and seeing it so completely empty almost gave me a moment of existential dread.

Maybe try walking around Valdrakken.

The RP that used to be rampant in SW is gone, but that’s (apparently) the case on quite a few RP servers. RP in general is quite a bit more disfavored these days. D&D surged in popularity. Over time, people realized that Blizz simply would not give RPers the tools they needed to create and maintain strong RP events, and the game itself got WAY too time demanding, chasing people away from RP if they also enjoyed playing the game. Regretably, DF has done absolutely nothing to change any of that - those grinds are just “voluntary” now. That’s great if you’re on a busy server where prices are low, but on a low pop server with high prices, calling the profession grind optional feels the same as saying Artifact Power was optional.

Blizz remains tone deaf, uncaring or incompetent. I no longer believe that they just don’t know how to help, simply that they refuse for one or more of those reasons. And they wonder why I always steer new people that ask me about WoW away from it.

This sucks. I want to interact with people but there is no one to interact with. I’m so desperate that I started actually chatting in random leveling dungeons. No responses of course, lol.

I’d transfer but I don’t want to lose all the great names I have here. Crappy position to be in.

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