The robots are still in operation

[Mayag-nightslayer]

Last week you banned a lot of level 10-50 bots, which is good, currently in the field map, 80% of Mageare bots, you did a good job. They were banned,
However, the robots in BRS are still running steadily, and they usually choose to commit suicide after completing the dungeon, return to the graveyard and reset the dungeon. Their path to BRS is fixed, you can see them in the spirit state, their number is huge, the route to the dungeon is fixed, it is easy to spot them,

[Nephe-caelestrasz (Nephe)]

Report. That’s all you can do. Blizzard will take care of them. They just don’t have the resources to have people sitting there monitoring for bots.

Bots are always banned in mass ban waves. Sadly, the people behind them are backed by ruthless cartels - it’s a multi-billion dollar industry. Ban one bot, and they move onto their next compromised stolen account and get going again.

Until players stop using their illicit services, the bot problem will persist.

[Nephe-caelestrasz (Nephe)]

@Mayag-nightslayer

You’re wrong.

Sorry, I’m not.

@Mayag-nightslayer

If Blizzard really wanted to deal with these robots, none of them could exist

Botting has been an issue in games LONG before WoW.

@Mayag-nightslayer

The robots are easy to spot, their mechanical movements are easy to identify.

As players, we can only suspect. That’s why you report them. Blizzard will take care of them but not one at a time - that’s completely pointless and just alerts the botters that they’ve been detected, so they make changes to avoid further detection. Blizzard will study them, work out how to detect that particular bot usage, collate accounts to investigate, investigate and then and only then will they unleash the ban wave.

That’s how it’s done to disrupt the bots the most - it’s not just involving the bots you see, but also the accounts used to move their gold around and such too. A ban wave usually involved 10’s of 1000’s of accounts at a time.

[Vorsol-thrall (Vorsol)]

Keep reporting, the gold farmers are a multi billion dollar operation with a lot of stolen accounts. As soon as you take out a bot they have 2 to replace the one you took out. This is a never ending war. They need all the help they can get.

Only way this will end is when your fellow players stop buying from the gold sellers

[Jeysca-wyrmrest-accord]

@Mayag-nightslayer

ou’re wrong. If Blizzard really wanted to deal with these robots, none of them could exist

If you’ve got a solution, I know Blizzard and literally all other online gaming companies would love to hire you. Every single online game with any modicum of user base has an issue with botting. No one has found a foolproof solution, and trust me, they have tried.

Unfortunately it’s never as easy as some people assume, as outline by Nephe above.

Edit:
You already have a locked topic in this from last week. Never a great idea to reopen a locked topic.

It's time to deal with those robots

In the anniversary server, there are already a large number of bots that have always been there, never been banned, and continue to grow. You can go to the path of LBRS in your spirit state, where there are many droids who have never been banned, You believe too much in your AI detection, you have banned a lot of accounts, but most of them are Jinnong, they are not robots, and robots will not be banned, because they are powerful organizations, they have a way to bypass AI detection They have …

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

@Mayag-nightslayer

If Blizzard really wanted to deal with these robots, none of them could exist.

Blizzard does deal with bots all the time. You just can’t see the process that goes on in the background.

Blizzard does it in banwaves for multiple reasons:

• They have to verify that the character is not a legitmate player, and is a bot or someone who is botting.
• They can’t allow for bot to adapt. If they just instantly ban then, the bots will keep changing the line in the code to adapt faster to avoid detection or reporting, which could make the game worse.

[Etamalgren-drenden (Etamalgren)]

@Ayukama-frostmourne

Blizzard does it in banwaves for multiple reasons:

• They have to verify that the character is not a legitmate player, and is a bot or someone who is botting.
• They can’t allow for bot to adapt. If they just instantly ban then, the bots will keep changing the line in the code to adapt faster to avoid detection or reporting, which could make the game worse.

Honestly, banwaves should go out the window the second that someone actively reports a ‘’‘‘person’’‘’ that is BLATANTLY cheating/botting.

Banwaves are fine when the cheating involved is minor – Someone using a subtle aimhack? Put 'em in the next banwave and gather data in the meantime. Someone botting on a singular account? Gather data, make sure it’s someone actually botting, put 'em in the next banwave if they are.

They’re not fine when it is extremely obvious to an outside observer that rulebreaking is going on, like someone full on ragehacking [i.e. a Widowmaker{a sniper} spinning around 300+ times a second and still somehow headshotting a Sombra from across the map even though Sombra was fully invisible when it happened], or a 40+ man group of moonkin all running the exact same circle in a large area [as in, they run literally in each other’s footprints], spamming moonfire/sunfire/starfall nonstop 24/7.

There’s nothing for the cheatmakers to ‘adapt’ to in those cases cause the cheater is making it so blatantly obvious that they’re breaking the rules!

[Darthwraith-blackhand (Darthwraith)]

Thats not not productive blizzard doesnt want to give the bot makers time to react which is why they dont drop the ban hammer immediately. And to make sure its not someone multiboxing the rightway.

[Zenjy-nesingwary]

Flat out: You don’t know how their system work and playing wack-a-mole won’t magically make them stop. Along with that, folks can and will mistake folks using a guide and other online tools to farm to the best of their ability while others will call them bots.

They don’t ban folks on the report is because there are deeper issues that’s going on that they can just reuse and make it worse because know they can work out how they was found out so fast. Those bot makers know what they’re doing and isn’t going to be setback because one or two accounts got shut down. If they did, no mmo would have a bot issue whatesoever.

[Vorsol-thrall (Vorsol)]

Plus if they are gold sellers they want to see what accounts they use to move gold around. So if they wait and watch they can get more stolen accounts banned/ locked

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

Botting requires the uses of scripts or other 3rd party software. You ban a bot instantly, they’ll try and change there script/program, and come back again on another compromised account. You ban them again, and they’ll repeat the process. And that cycle will keep going until they are undetectable, and unreportable.

Because not putting that delay in there, it is allowing for the bots to adapt and make changes, potentially making the game full of bots and hard to deal with them.

Yes, it is frustrating when you can’t see the full inner workings, and over the years, Blizzard has made changes not only for players to have it easier to report as such, but for bots to not be in a far worse state now as they were years ago.

Blizzard fighting bots is a never ending battle, and it is basically the same with every game out there. Bots will always be around to ruin the enjoyment of those who just want to play. But if there isn’t that delay, then bots will adapt more easily to bypass everyone, and get away with a lot worse.

[Vralok-turalyon (Vralok)]

You don’t know that someone is a bot. You suspect. Blizzard has to prove it, because they have to have evidence when people appeal. They can’t just go on “that looks like a bot”.

I have to keep posting this, because people still just don’t seem to get it. This is from a former Blizzard employee who used to work on the hacks team.

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