The real threat are the Void Lords, not the Jailer

Given the recent interview which compared the Eternal ones to being more like titan Keepers in term of strength and given that Zovaal is an Eternal one himself.

I highly doubt he is anywhere near a titan in power tbh,even with all those souls powering him up. In fact given what’s happening rn, I’m thinking of Ilgynoth’s prophecy, the boys king serves at the masters table. The 5 keys that will open the way, note that the Jailer is speaking about keys.

Imo the Jailer is not the end goal, he’s opening the way for the Void Lords.

This expac will end with the way to the VL being open the way i see it, and us needed the strength of a titan(Sargeras) to lead the fight against them.

There is a reason for why Sargy is captured rn, he’s probably gonna have a change of heart by the end.

Titans the only things we never actually beat the full power form of, Argus was a malformed baby that was drained of its strength for millenias.

And Aggramar was more like an avatar than his actual self.

Sargeras was so strong that they had us capture him.

I doubt the Jailer will be the same, we’re probably gonna beat him ourselves and capture/kill him.

So far nothing ive seen from these eternal ones comes even close to a titant’s power, let Alone Sargeras.

The void lords are the real threat.

And they’re coming.

Anduin already has grey hair, it’ll lead to the Son of the wolf comic with him with grey hair leading the fight against them.

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The Void Lords and the Light.

We’ve seen what the void is capable of for evil (and good) purposes, but we’ve also seen the light in the same ways for good and forcefully corrupting means and recently how far they’re willing to go if someone were to piss them off a bit.

We’ve also seen that the people of the Shadowlands don’t really hold the light or the void on such a high pedestal as people like Turalyon. I’d say Alleria would share their views on the light and void very well.

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I’m telling ya, they’re doing the Shadow War from Babylon 5 all over again. And I am bummed, because I hoped they weren’t going to do that.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/sl-pop-culture-references-and-future-implications/758963

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I miss when the fight wasn’t galactical titanic gazillion year old mega Lovecraftian super beings.

Always trying to justify our increased powers now.

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So is the Jailer going for Azeroth’s World Soul just part of the Void Lords’ plans?

Where do the Nathrezim fit in?

Nathrezim probably work for the void lords.

Boring. Boring. Boring.

I literally cannot imagine a threat more tedious that giant blobs of vague darkness from the darkness dimension.

I hope we never see them.

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Running theory (or was it proven? I don’t remember) is that the Nathrezim were created by Denathrius and are working for the Jailer by proxy.

Real threat to the story is steve dansuer and his fanfictions

I mean if planet sized beings can shapeshift then surely the VL can too. They may not look like giant purple blobs.

The thing about the Void Lords is, since the Void sees, believes and acts upon an infinite number of possibilities, then in all likelihood they aren’t all working according to a common plan and set of goals.

So while some of them bought into the “make a void titan” plan, others may be doing completely unrelated things with entirely different angles. Which could explain Xal’atath; her interaction with N’zoth comes across like she’s sort of an “outsider” making a deal with the Old God. She seems to know a whole lot about the Old Gods and their purpose, but doesn’t really come across as entirely being part of it. Like maybe she’s an agent or avatar of some other Void Lord(s) following a different set of “truths” than the ones who chucked a bunch of Old Gods into the Great Dark with the goal of claiming a nascent titan. In the same vein, whenever the Void sends a bunch of voidspawn to straight-up invade a realm or planet directly, that too could be Void Lords with different fates that they’re trying to bring about, detached from each other and the rest.

And atop all that, there could be Void Lords whose “truths” involve not trying to take over at all, and who simply operate on the premise of only operating in the Void itself because that’s just plain the sort of future they’ve foreseen as the most correct.

Really the idea that there’s one big Void Lord plan that this is all feeding into would arguably contradict the whole point of the Void. It has no one plan; the Light has that “one plan” mentality, while the Void would by definition be pursuing an infinite number of plans and goals while treating them all with equal validity, even when they contradict each other, and perhaps even when some of them aren’t even advantageous to itself.

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If i had to guess the first ones are probably the Light and Void pantheon. Together they created the eternal ones as well as the universe itself. Like a big bang kinda thing.

Death is chaotic thus it would fit very well with descending from the void, and light couldve engandered Order.

See i thought that too when the Kyrian said they fought the Void and they locked the void attacker in the Maw. There’s a lot of Old God hints everywhere from Ardenweald and the Drust and the Loa plot.

There’s interesting hints about Denathrius being actually ‘the Heir’ and there is a sword with his name spelt backwards in the Maw. Maybe he wasn’t the original Eternal One of Revendreth and the jailer was.

Probably. But if you think about it, it really should be the other way around. Light is associated with life, which is nothing but chaotic. Death, on the other hand, can be said to be supremely orderly.

Either side works tbh. Light and death and Void/Order makes sense.

Would work with the duality of Voidlords/Titans too tbh.