I’ve seen zero with hand of rag.
I bet you see aliens too bro. The drones right?
I’m pretty sure, unless i missed them, NOONE said rmt wouldnt exist without GDKP, they said it would be alot less and blizz also gave reasons why which also players said. Where you people keep getting this RMT disappears without GDKP is beyond me. Everyone knows it’s still a problem. Get over it. Its still not perfect and i agree its still a problem. The fact gdkp added ALOT to the problem and could be easily solved is why they did it. You don’t have to like it but it is what it is. 1/2 that list you gave is easily attainable. You can make almost 4k gold just doing the quests and selling the rewards from 50 and on if you just dungeon grind. Its proven go look. Im not saying thats what is happening im sure its not but still plausable. Explain to me how someone pays 10s of thousands for items?
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But if this was reversed you would say they just swiped for their gold in a gdkp.
When it isnt gdkp EVERYONE FARMED THEIR GOLD.
When it is gdkp EVERYONE BOUGHT THEIR GOLD.
You watch too many youtube videos.
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If you can’t play without buying gold yourself or getting your cut of RMT gold, then don’t?
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I won’t be pugging on fresh.
But I will voice my distant to the fact that anti-gdkp players will reduce the amount of decent pugs by likely over 80%
They are paying it. Lol
This isn’t true at all, it’s just some kind of a cope trying to pretend everyone else is bad but only GDKP players are good, and ignoring the fact that many players who used to do GDKP’s will simply do PUG’s since GDKP’s are banned.
Even if you don’t, more than enough people will, so this is 100% a positive thing.
And honestly I’m not 100% convinced that you, or people like you saying the same thing will actually stop playing, since a lot of WoW is straight up addiction so more than likely you might either PUG or find a guild to scratch that itch.
It’s like you’re trying to threaten something because your cheats got taken away, but it’s irrelevant.
The carries will mostly do LC and now no reason to open up raids - only guildies and friends.
most people from Era I know are raiding on fresh, so yeah people are there. But they aren’t doing pugs. I’ll be there a bit before p2 and pvp / raid for a bit then likely go back to Era. Maybe heal naxx too because that raid is really fun and I enjoy a bit of progression
Most my recent wow time has just been wsg on era.
If there had been gdkps and ranking phase 1, I may have committed to a main and plan put all my wow time in fresh until tbc. Thus the ban reduces the amount of players in pugs by at least 1.
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We won’t stop playing we just won’t make alts.
We don’t want to do SR or HR runs.
So we just main raid in our guilds now like we have been doing except now we don’t make alts
The swipers claiming the game dies without GDKPs are rather funny. Somehow the game thrived for like 17 years without them. And continues to do so in the Classic version where they’ve been banned.
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Copper? Like mine copper? You want us to mine more copper?
Weird, but I guess I could understand. I think you’re trying to tell us to farm more and yes I agree. More farming is almost always better but I’d recommend higher level stuff like plaguebloom, black lotus, arcane crystals etc…
What a generalization, my god man.
I dont think anyone has ever made a claim that the game would die with GDKP banned, if I missed it then whoever made that claim is dumb.
But back to the generalization point, I dont do GDKPs but I think the ban is wrong if were all talking about RMT and I have never once swiped in my 18 years of playing this game.
^ The 2 posts above his are essentially claiming that.
You’re gonna dissect it and go “nuh uh they’re just claiming that 80% of PUGs will be worse and everyone will be bad and the game will be trash” and continue with the blindfold on.
The level of ignorance you have to go thru to not see that GDKP’s are the easiest way for RMT gold buyers to purchase items for real money, and in the same go launder their bought gold thru the entire raid is ridiculous.
That’s the problem with people defending GDKP’s, it requires such a massive willful ignorance and turning a blind eye to all of the negatives and just continuously saying "well nuh uh I like it so therefore there’s nothing bad at all.
It’s been discussed to death and it always goes back to “nuh uh there’s nothing wrong with it at all and I like it so it’s wrong it’s banned.”
GDKP’s directly enable pay to win via RMT and they have many negative effects, that’s why they’re banned, but why people who keep defending and supporting them continue to lie and ignore all of the negatives just because they enjoy getting a cut of RMT bought gold is just disgusting.
There was a reddit thread about how a GDKP organizer was selling tons of gold they got from their GDKP’s for real money and people applauded it, and another reddit thread about a guy killing botters and gold farmers and the people criticized him calling him a narc and saying he should mind his own business.
The problem is the players support cheating in a multiplayer game, and will go to any lengths of ignorance and blinding themselves to justify it because it’s more “optimal” to cheat than it is to play fair.
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Imagine watering down the p2w phrase this much.
Yah man the guy raiding, killing bosses and having RNG loot drops is paying 2 win.
He got his items most likely after others got the same items for free weeks before he did
#Winning
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You are giving a perfect example of the level of ignorance that I described, even to the point of seeing a post as long as that and only being able to quote 8 words.
At least the 8 words you chose to quote are 100% true.
“The guy sitting AFK, letting other “carries” kill bosses for him, and then purchasing whatever item he wants using RMT bought gold is paying 2 win.”
#Telling The Truth
You’re just assuming he’s afk.
Because he has bad gear all of a sudden he’s just dead in a corner and you think this is how all gdkps go?
You’re showing how ignorant you are on the subject, you’re actually clueless.
If you’re afk which almost all gdkps don’t allow you don’t even get a cut. My gdkps would remove you if you were standing still. Good players have gold, this notion you need to be a Uber rich whale to participate is stupid.
And yes your definition of p2w is garbage.
My TBCC gm could of bought $1,000,000,000 in gold and we never saw a main hand glaive drop.
#Winning!
Stop using catch phrases you don’t understand
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I can assure you with absolute certainty if you are a “buyer” they will let you AFK or do whatever you want, that’s the entire point of the system of “buyers” and “carries”
I’ve seen it first hand with someone literally saying “Ya i’m paying for this run I’m gonna AFK” until it was time to bid.
And everyone let them do it because they knew they were getting a piece of his RMT bought gold, that’s the whole reason they recruited that buyer.
This is the exact willful ignorance and turning a blind eye to what’s so clearly in front of you that I talked about 2 posts ago.
No that isn’t how it goes.
My guild ran the biggest gdkp discord on Bene and most likely in all of classic.
We were hosting 30+ runs a week.
You will be removed for afking.
If you mess up enough you get fined.
If you mess up even more you get removed and your cut goes to someone that replaces you
You don’t know what you’re talking about, you watch too many YouTube videos and youre basing all of gdkps on videos and trash trade chat gdkps.
Talking about ignorance, you’re the definition of it here.
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And now we’re back to “nuh uh, there’s nothing wrong with it”
In another thread you said “You don’t get to decide what’s cheating or not”
So when Blizzard decided that GDKP’s are banned, how come you’re still arguing about it?
I’m not arguing to add them back.
I’m correcting your missinformation on the subject matter.
You are clearly ignorant to the subject at hand, you can tell you base your info on videos and trade chat gdkps.
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