MHP’s gonna MHP
It really depends on what I’m trying to do.
Am I trying to mythic raid? Parses most definitely matter and are a valuable tool to min/max my toon.
Heroic raiding? I’ll pay attention but I won’t go ham on changes/sims unless I’m consistently in the grey. Alot of grey parses are lack of knowledge/bad rng/not changing talents etc…
For my raid group I only recommend people changing things if they do the same fight 2 weeks in a row in the grey…if that’s the case they either need to study the fight, or fix something with their toon. I’ll be honest in that I’m struggling in AEP currently, but I’m working on it. I like to consistently see improvement and the best current metric is parses and logs.
There is also a significant difference between an “ilvl %” and just the regular parse %.
Parses are more or less accurate until you get to obvious pad bosses which generally speaking aren’t for all star points anyway. If you don’t go downstairs on Zaqul you are green parsing. On the other hand a fight like Mekka has too much variance to parse so its not like you can make your raid “let you parse” since they can’t control who gets bombed or shrunk.
I feel like OP is just looking for excuses as to why he isn’t parsing well (don’t feel like looking him up at work). Every tier like all but 2 bosses are accurate for parses GENERALLY SPEAKING. ANT was a pad paradise, but otherwise it is usually only 2 bosses.
Gray parses, for all intents and purposes, are for those that die. My Orgazoa is gray because I died both kills on the ramp since I forgot to take Burning Rush both times. If someone parses gray or low green on the regular and not dead every time, it isn’t bad math. It’s bad player.
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For mythic you shouldn’t care about parses at all unless damage is truly an issue and you are hitting enrages. People caring about parses means they are less likely to do mechanics and stand in bad because “muh dps”. Only care about parses on farm. You will never parse on prog anyway since chances are your first kill has 6 bodies on the floor and the fight went on an extra 60 seconds.
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Sorry maybe I wasn’t as clear as I wanted to be. I only use parses (or maybe I should say logs?) to improve my play as a whole…warcraftlogs also has a mechanics tab that is extremely useful in figuring out what went wrong and when.
I moreso analyze my logs when I’m doing mythic raiding as opposed to heroic raid cuz mythic obviously matters more and that extra little bit is that much more important.
This is mainly what I’m saying…if there is a bunch of grey it’s cuz I’m doing something wrong and need to improve. I don’t blame the logs for my poor performance.
how is his math wrong
Nothing is wrong with my math.
That’s my misunderstanding. Regardless of if you personally do it or not, it is a fairly big problem among “semi-hardcore” guilds that people play for parses. They wait a second too long and don’t clip their cast and take half their health in damage from a puddle on Sivara or whatever. People, as a whole, need to understand it doesn’t really matter how big your dps is as long as the boss dies. You don’t magically get a max forge for orange parsing. In a perfect world, on a prog kill everyone parses like green-blue and you ended like 18/20 alive. It means people paid attention to mechanics and didn’t play for themselves.
It’s good you actually use warcraftlogs for looking at actually useful information. A lot of players don’t, nor do they know how to actually use the website.
But picking out the right gears is part of raiding. Always has been. This is not fps games that’s like 80-90% executions. I’d say for WoW it’s more 70% preparation 30% execution. You take forever in preparing to do end game content. There’s gearing, rotation practice, study mechanics, and then you still need to learn how to apply everything in real the encounter.
I’m not sure what you’re complaining about… Your horde priest is parsing at 86.8 on heroic EP… Or is that the issue in that you think you’re a 100 percenter?
I know that OP didn’t even get the number correct for how much stat a gem gives you, it’s 50, not 40.
Old gems obv
snort sounds like we got ourselves a grey in our midst.
Yeah new gems are 50
Are you talking about meters or parses? Parses are accurate, as they utilize the log data that is recorded by WoW itself. To view this data in game check out the combat log.
Meters, however, don’t always use this data. I know Recount doesn’t and I don’t think Skada does either. These are approximations and should be met with a little skepticism.
Oh Darling, It would seem your “Parse Coutre” has a similar problem to Haute Couture. You have to understand fashion, just randomly wearing high end clothing will make you look more like a clown than Haute Couture
Interesting
Lot of words just to say that ilvl and parses aren’t that great. Obviously there’s a lot more to consider before making a statement about parses. You have to consider the amount of parses at that ilvl and how well geared you are and etc… Saying that they’re obviously false is not right, what you conclude out of those numbers could be false, but the numbers don’t lie.
It’s the same situation as raider IO: not perfect, but the best we have.
I’m fine with it as is, and I’ll be fine with it if it gets better. Beyond just personal skill and gear, strategy also plays a huge part, which is determined by your raid. If there is a cheese strat and your guild doesn’t utilize it for whatever reason, you’re not getting orange parses. If you’re a burst DMG class that focuses on CD usage and your fights run long such that it’s not an optimal range for maximizing CD uptime? Same thing. Good luck with parses.
Still, at the end of the day, that’s why I prefer the BEST performance someone has done, since it reflects their top potential they’ve realized. In addition to parses, I also enjoy chasing meter position in the raid itself. Nothing better than beating a spriest in crucible when they were blatantly hilariously OP.
Are you sure about that? Many tools in this world are dangerous in the hands of people that don’t know how to use them.
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