We know they won’t delete us players, so the problem with these threats that are constantly world ending with little to no substance is that I know we will win.
We’ve also suffered no consequence for winning that anyone cares about. So what Silithus got stabbed, nobody went there often anyway…
So what The tree got burned? Death wing ravaged Azeroth…10 years ago, the fires still burn.
N’zoth? Nah, we’re fine…Titans? Nah we’re fine…
That’s what bothers me the most about the story, you mean to tell me as the threats have increased and the adventurer has grown to the champion we’ve overcome ALL threats and saved Azeroth countless times…yet the Jailer never saw that coming?
If I was the Jailer as soon as the PC entered the Shadowlands, I would have been on high alert, not so nonchalant like he was. It’s like he didn’t even care we were there.
The maw walker, the champion, the chosen one, you name it, we have won every…single…time…Yet Zovaal in his infinite wisdom of time, couldn’t see the hero’s of Azeroth were here to end him?
For once, I wanted a cool story that was missed with N’zoth in particular…where for the whole time N’zoth was just manipulating us to do his dirty work by killing all Azeroth threats for him throughout All the expansions…with promise of great power (the loot) we did that unknowingly…yet it never happened…gone away into a dagger for another day.
The masterminds of Azeroth and WoW lore are chumps. (referring to the in game characters)
It’s very much a shonen anime trope and now WoW feels like a shonen anime where the result is guaranteed from the start. I was sincerely hoping for the Jailer to win, something that makes him an actual threat. But no, we won again. Like we always do. There was never any risk of failing.
It’s kind of the easiest way to explain the story right now, haha. By tying certain things directly to the Jailer, and claiming he’s been behind it all, and then having him claim he was doing that to stop an even worse threat is just…pretty much that picture. XD
In my first ever leveling, by the time I reached cata, I was thinking to myself “boy these Titans folks sure have aura of mystery around them, I hope that doesn’t change.” I have never been more disappointed in my life. I don’t get me started on Elune.
After the cinematic where Anduin meets Wrathion, I saw so much potential for quest lines and the conflict with the old god but they just made him another meh villain as you say. I think they need to retire this game before they have to start making it wear depends.
There’s not one point in the entirety of the lore in this expansion where I haven’t just dropped my head in disappointment…I really thought it couldn’t get any worse with BfA, but then…well here we are.
They should’ve capped power escalation at Lich King levels. There’s really no good reason for any raid boss to be more powerful than that.
Then they could’ve saved Kil’Jaeden and Sargaeras for WoW’s last expansion and it would’ve really meant something to be fighting enemies that powerful.
It’s like watching House and the doctors say “we gave him 50ccs of chocolate, he’ll be cured in 2 days” but you look at the time on the show and it has 25 minutes left and you’re just like
The problem with cosmic threats - like SL/ZM - is that you have to keep inventing more and more outlandish “beyond cosmic” threats to build any kind of narrative tension.
The Legion, for example, was always the chaos threat, but they existed within our dimensional reality.
SL forced this narrative that now has us not just beyond the “scourge” (death on our plane) but now has to introduce the 1st ones to provide some narrative tension beyond “oh, we are in the realm of death”.
At some point the escalation is just bs.
Game was much better grounded in Azeroth, with the occasional trip to other planets/dimensions. Uncovering too much of the mystery kind of ruins the basic structure of regular, normal, existence.
I think cosmic threats would be a lot more interesting if they weren’t world ending so much as doing something extremely unpleasant and generating drama.
