It is the anti boosters that are hostile
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If thereâs enough push back theyâll make Fresh servers later in BC Iâd assume. But eh This ainât O.G blizzard my man.
You have been if you think anything below max level is relevant
God I love leveling 
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It didnât. The dumb hostility on these boards only affects a tiny fraction of people, and certainly not new players.
One side is advocating excitement for new players
The other side is making topics asking for segregation and threatening to kill anyone ingame for their choices.
If any one side is obviously lost its probably the one trying to deny other players
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Do you know what the fraction is by chance? It seems that everyone but me has the numbers on this. Interestingly, no oneâs numbers seem to match⌠
Slicey, I do want to throw you some appreciation your way for being as civil as you have been, and that you seem to be thinking about about all of this in as fair a way as I have seen from the other side⌠But yet again, I must disagree.
The majority of pro boost sentiment toward new players getting the boost is that they literally donât think there will be any or they are simply returning players that couldnât stand leveling in Classic originally. I havenât really seen folks saying that the boost is a great option for new players, more or less just deflections about their existence or relevance.
Further, I would argue that the boost denies the part of the community that wants TBC done in the spirit of Classic, as current classic is, an option to play the game blizzard set precedent for us.
Also: I hope you donât think Iâm personally advocating for the killing of boosters, Iâm pointing out that it will happen.
Ultimately, I donât even necessarily want to deny people faster leveling. I advocate for recruit a friend 100%, as I think it has the desired effect for new people trying to play with their friends, which blizz stated was the point of the boost in the first place, without adding further Retail monetization that completely skips content.
I really do believe if it makes it into TBC, the token and cash shop will be shortly after. This is the pattern of behavior with these systems that blizzard had already demonstrated, and the token is already technically supported on the Chinese Classic client, and in use there. If we show a culture of support for this on western servers, I guarantee it will come. Why else would they opt for a boost instead of RAF? Money. Thatâs really it. And if they think weâll be okay with the token, that is also money, and will be next, and the current pro boost crowd will have nothing to say for it in opposition but, what? An appeal to their personal fondness for skipping leveling, but not grinding gold and gear? Thatâs obviously hypocritical, and will fall on as deaf of ears as the pro boosters are claiming the anti booster protests are now.
Okay, and? The token directly combats gold buying/selling, which will direct reduce the amount of bots in the game. Its healthy, and if TBC is going to be as bot infested as some seem to think, the token is the obvious solution.
Because RAF was highly abused by bots during WoD. Its an easily abusable system. They went with paid boosts because they know bots arenât going to use it.
I am 100% in favor of the token for reasons stated above.
Almost every time the Devs talk about the numbers involving these boards, it is barely a serverâs worth of people even going to the forums, let alone the smaller crew that posts all the time. What happens on these boards is a minority of minorities and while the Devs do read this stuff, they take it with a massive grain of salt.
When some topics bring in first-time posters in droves, not just brigading idiots but genuine posters, thatâs the kind of thing that gets some Dev notice. But when the same folks keep swapping alts and spamming threads with the same stuff, that also gets noticed but not in a positive way.
Just something to keep in mind that whatever happens here needs to have a heavy dose of salt.
Itâs a virtual game with no real life rewards. Anything is relevant if it adds to a playerâs enjoyment.
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Then retail is the game for you. There, you can buy your character, buy your gold, then with it, buy your way into raids with a guarantee to get the armor you want. THAT is retailâŚ
⌠But it is NOT Classic.
Frankly, if you admit that you want just some systems from classic, but not others, and you want some systems from retail, but not others, you have to also admit that which systems you want from which game are entirely subjective to you, your feelings and preferences, and the chances that the rest of the WoW community, particularly the Classic community, align with your particulars are extremely slim. You also forfeit the right to criticize anyone elseâs feelings or preferences because they have the same right to whatever fantasy hodgepodge mixture of systems that you do.
Also, giving up and taking the path of least resistance when it comes to botting is not a solution, itâs a bandaid. This also assumes somehow that retail, and recent expansions did not have a botting problem, which is patently false should you look into the subject. Aggressive combating of botting both by blizzard and by the community is the answer.
I agree with you there, donât get me wrong, but I also donât think itâs reasonable to think that people that arenât currently posting on the forum just have no opinions on the subject, and only people that have extreme feelings about the subject do. I concede that there is likely a large margin that donât, but my point is that people here seem to draw their inclinations about how many people think and feel what from their own feedback loops and echo chambers, and it is not constructive to the conversation.
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Not saying that at all, but you canât really judge the silent majority based upon the vocal minority here. Thatâs all.
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Actually Recruit a Friend was a thing in TBC. This is far less exploitative than that feature would be.
Is that like a threat or something? Targeted harassment is against tos.
Sounds like TBC Classic isnât the game for you then, maybe you should just stick with classic if you donât like boosts.
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Please reserve spice unless you have read the thread. Accusations of making threats are actually kind of serious and shouldnât be thrown around in posts lacking the context of the thread theyâre in. Much like pointing out lowbies will get ganked on PvP servers, or hunters that click-pull will earn the frustration of their raid is certainly not a threat, but an acknowledgement.
Classic was originally made to answer a plea from players that no longer identified or showed interest in the retail game. Blizzard then went on to say that they wouldnt add boosts because it is not in keeping with the spirit of Classic.
Are you insinuating that Blizzard can change what they think is in keeping with the spirit of Classic, and the crowd that originally pled for it, as they see fit? If so, then if they decided to add the token, faction change, the store, modern graphics, lfg, lfd, and pandaren, but kept the raids as TBC, you would accept that as classic, too? If not, why?
Boosts arenât being added to classic, theyâre being added to TBC Classic. Which whether you like it or not will be separate from classic.
As for what else they might add I can decide for myself on a case by case basis instead of just ranting #nochanges. Tokens would be fine and I would have no issue with the other store stuff. Pandaâs will come when they release MoP Classic. LFD/LFR I can pass on but I hope they add the LFG Tool to all versions of classic.
Then you clearly are admitting that you want a mix of systems, which systems are mixed, you will decide if you will be upset or not when that time comes, subjectively.
That means you have no right to tell others what not to complain or are upset about, based on their personal subjectivity, because you reserve the right to decide if a system is âgoodâ or not based off of your own subjective opinion. Doing so would to be known as a hypocrite.
Beyond that, I think your premise is incorrect that Classic Era servers are âClassicâ, and TBC, which was described by blizzard in the following from the announcement page that is still up, as: âBurning Crusade Classic is a faithful recreation of the original release of World of WarcraftÂŽ: The Burning CrusadeÂŽâ being "separate from classic whether I like it or not. "
It isnât a faithful recreation with this cash grab. Plain and simple.
I donât think itâs fair to say every single person thatâs going to use a boost is going to have no idea what theyâre doing I think thereâs a very big portion of people.
That just do not like to play classic but really love the burning crusade and I think weâre going to see a lot of those people.
Come into the game as well
And i disagree, boosts do not change any of the actual in game mechanics which is primarily what i care about. And since TBC starts at 58 which is the minimum to enter the dark portal I further donât care about the boosts as noone is skipping any of the actual TBC content that most of us will be going into with geared out 60âs.
You mean like leveling?
And I donât care what you donât care about. See how subjectivity isnât helpful in this discussion? We can circle the drain until we talk about:
- What classic set out to do in the first place.
- What precedents Blizzard set in posts that are still available for everyone to see.
- The hypocrisy of adding systems from retail while claiming in the announcement page to be a faithful recreation of the release of TBC.
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