social climate effects it as well. if life is non stressful, you seek out challenge. if life is stressful, you seek out escape.
Since I know youāre not a troll and I suspect youāre genuine.
There will be a subset of classic players who know the class theyāre boosting, maybe its an alt on another server, maybe its a secondary alt of a class they already play, or class they played in vanilla / TBC originally.
The bulk of the boosts are likely to be tourists and bots, I say that with a fair amount of confidence because I have a few friends who play retail but donāt play classic but are going to boost TBC, and are unlikely to stick around.
Bots will also use the boost service because it makes practical business sense. IMO Bots are the target audience for boostsā¦ Not even kidding.
oh i hope they do. tbc was good times
Easily some of the best, although Classic has been SUPER fun!
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Very very true. But I genuinely think that we should leave classic/CTBC alone, and let the short changing of the frustration-accomplishment reward system play out in retail, and then judge the outcome. I wish blizz would publish the numbers, but I suspect that Classic is doing at least, if not better than SL at the moment.
And if thatās true despite SL having better graphics, new content, voice acting, more cosmetic choices, etcā¦
I dream of a day that they have 0 options for content skipping, a real adventure of a leveling experience, and the aesthetic options listed above.
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thankfully, tbc in outlands, still has plenty of that! and if the player who boosts is new and enjoys it, they may make alts, and those will have the full enchilada, complete with the azerothian game world challenges
who is hating on boosted players??
Likeā¦ the vast majority of people WONT CARE if you boosted your toon lol.
just because some mouth breathers keep screaming about boosts doesnt make it a majority opinion.
Most people will not care / wonāt know or pay attention to the fact someone boosted their character.
You guys here on the forums LOVE a good DOOM THREAD.
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II see this is the new talking point. Somehow open world content prepares you for dungeons and raids, which is laughable.
I disagree. I donāt think bots are even going to bother with boosts. We have no evidence for either side, though.
sooo iām playing classic, on my resto druid. i join a deadmines group who is asking for spot heals/dps. thereās a warrior, a priest, a mage, a rogue and myself. the priest only bubbles and once in awhile heals. then between fights, doesnt drink, and spends most fights oom. i end up healing the whole thing. he then announces heās gonna go shadow cause priest heals suck. oh and he was out of water the whole dungeon and never asked the mage for water. hehehe. thatās a new player .
The problem with arguments that are rife within this thread that use the words āthe majorityā or āits only a tiny minorityā or any such generalization of the player base isā¦ You are obviously shooting from the hip, as we have literally no context for these numbers. Your friends, your guild, and the part of your server that you interact with are NOT a general sample size that you can use to claim anything.
This also applies to the folks talking about how few and far between the new players will be. You donāt know, you have a feeling, and a feeling isnāt evidence.
What Iām saying is that boosted characters, with no respect to majority or minority, will be targeted for harassment, and so far I have only referenced this in the scope of PvE and exclusion, and perhaps hate whispers or general channels bashing boosters.
What I havenāt even addressed yet is PvP. Again, thinking of the individual and not the unknown majority or minorities, some amount of boosted toons are going to get camped mercilessly on PvP realms. Might that happen anyway? Sometimes. Maybe. But not in the same way, or got the same reason as boosted characters, and that poor experience for those players lies at blizzards feet, and toxic people who will do it, both of whom gain something in the way of money for blizzard and honor/sadistic glee for the campers, while the new player who has boosted just gets a high level that they donāt know how to play, and a horrible player experience that flatly WOULD NOT have had the same likelihood of happening if they had leveled traditionally.
Boosted characters become indistinguishable from anyone other level 58 within hours of playing in outlands.
i think this would be true for seasoned players as well, since no one wants to be the target of harrasment unless it serves some other agenda
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Granted, itās been a loooong time since I played TBC, but I do not quite recall replacing all of my gear by the time I was prompted to go to Hellfire Ramparts. But I may be wrong. Doesnāt change the fact that it will be open season on PvP servers on boosted characters in particular shortly after launch.
Iām dubious at best at your full gear replacement idea, particularly when addressing new players, some of whom wonāt know the difference between leather and plate, or the ones Iāve seen running around at level 13 in their starting equipment.
Iām going to guess that any players who didnāt fully level in classic arenāt going to stick around too long in BC either. This whole argument will be moot two months after launch.
If you were in greens and blues going into TBC as a 58 you replaced them within hours in TBC. I was in MC/ZG/AQ20 gear and that was almost entirely replacedā¦
Yes 58 characters are going to be stomped on pvp realms in HFP, that has nothing to do with boosts.
This assumes that all new players are those returning from leveling and burning out in classicā¦ Which Iāve seen a number of times in threads regarding the boost. You donāt have numbers, so you obviously canāt say for sure, but assuming that there will be only negligible numbers of people who:
-Are new to PC gaming entirely
- Were busy with other parts of their life but now have time to try Classic/TBC
- Are now old enough to purchase their own account/system and play
- Have immigrated from places that WoW isnāt popular to places where it is
- Have met a friend or SO that intrigued them into trying the game
ā¦ is not something you can substantiate. These are just examples, but what Iām trying to show is assuming that all ānewā players are really just returning players that couldnāt handle leveling in classic, when we are talking on a scale of millions of people is very specifically favoring one demo, and is unreasonable without some kind of evidence.
Iāll have to take your word for it, but something tells me, particularly around launch, with players completely new to the game, that may not understand the difference between green or blue, plate or cloth, or intellect vs. Agility, let alone their abilities, talents and racials will take just a smiiidge more than a few hours. Again, this is kind of my point. HFP isnāt a new player friendly place to learn the basics, and was never designed to be, despite blizzard marketing the boost to new players.
Right. Which is why Elwynn or Durotar are better places to start from a āfirst time playā perspective, and are more likely to promote a committed playthrough than starting in HFP.
Based on that logic nothing is new player friendly.
And seriously how many new players are you actually expecting who have never played WoW before?
Well, exactly the same number of dogs under 30 pounds that can be found in the southern quarter of Somaliaā¦ Which is to say I have no clue. We donāt have numbers that we can rely on so it really breaks down to this: How many new players having a crap time and hating the game and regretting trying the game at all justifies the convenience of seasoned players not having to play through content they find tedious, in a game that Blizz rebooted BECAUSE said players preferred tedium to cash grab handouts that are present in the current game?
I will clarify this is purely my opinion, but I value another person having a fun first experience in my favorite game over my own ability to skip content that isnāt my favorite, but is an expected staple in the game mechanics and was never even meant to be skipped at this point in the games life.
But who knows, I may just yet be the illogical and selfish buffoon, that is holding people back the sheer joy that is not playing part of the game that they pay to play.
Iāve met 1 in my entire time playing classic wow