Having gear drop with less then ideal stats ( though it may be ideal for another class/spec ) is an added bonus to the RNG/gambling of playing the game.
Enjoy!
Haste will still staircase for most specs allowing other stats to gain relative value.
I guess we are all pretending that unlike haste, crit or mastery, vers has a defensive benefit. I don’t know about everyone else, but I do more damage when I’m not dead.
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For Arms specifically, it stays high value for a long time because of the ToM window.
Yes, I do, even when I spell it resistance lol. /facepalm
I’d always be fully epic’d up in PvP gear, long before my PvE set got anywhere.
They can bring back AV weekend while we’re asking too.
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Your stated stat priority clearly shows a lack of understanding of the numbers that are in play for Arms. You should probably read up on the ability formulas, especially vers, if you are placing mastery that high. At the very least place context: are we speaking to raiding, pvp m+?
I hate how its the pvp stat. Makes building for it a lot more boring than it needs to be.
Vers should just be outright removed, imo.
M+ and Raiding. And I did read up on it? Vers is dead last and Crit kind of has a soft cap, so putting most of it in Mastery helps with bleed and overall damage.
even then resistance did remind me of the time when fire elementals were kinda immune too fire dmg, making fire mages and some warlocks irritated.
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Your placement of haste, and indication that mastery is about equivalent of crit says otherwise: this particularly an absurd notion in multitarget scenarios.
Haste helps with auto-attack swings and rage generation, which honestly isn’t a problem with Skull Splitter. Mastery puts a debuff on the target with a DoT. There’s a ton of passive crit bonuses in the Arms tree.
The only AoE talents I actively take are Cleave, Dragon’s Roar and its passive talents, and the one where you Slam your primary target when Whirlwind hits two or more mobs.
There are very few things as cringey as framing something you think someone would say as if it were a quote. I do not think mastery is a boring stat, because it does a different thing for each class. It has unique class interaction. I don’t think haste is boring because it just makes your class more fun to play, and crit isn’t boring because it makes you see big numbers. I know you didn’t make any silly claims about my opinion of haste or crit, but I thought I’d cover my bases before you go on putting more stuff I never said in quotes.
every single pvp piece has versatility, what are you talking about
then stop stacking it, enchanting it, gemming it. clearly its BiS which is the opposite of that.
and pvp or pve, Verse is very desirable for tanks.
resilience was just the defensive aspect of the Verse stats.
pvp power was just the offensive aspect of the Verse stats.
so it never went away. it combined into one stat and became universal so pvp gear wouldn’t be actual trash in pve content in the same way a Evoker would be looked at if they had a bunch of agility gear on.
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I don’t know why Versatility is always singled out as “boring” as if the other stats are any more interesting than watching C-SPAN on mute.
Versatility is great for soloing.
More damage out, less damage in.
Nothing wrong with that.
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did you even earn a some of the pvp set bonuses in DF?
They need to just make it a purely PvP stat, and figure out a more interesting stat to take it’s place in PvE, or maybe not.
Or if they are going to insist on keeping it around, bring back reforging so we can at least get rid of some of it for a stat that might actually be good for our spec.
Vers only exists because of PVP, so if they just remove PVP from WoW we’re fine, folks.
Go pvp without Vers lmk how that goes.
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Hey, I want no haste at all on my cloth and I swear 9/10 pieces have haste on it.
I’ve got like 2 Crit/mastery pieces on and those are the two stats I want most lol
I think they did it on purpose 
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