Game crashing is an issue I’m sure they will need to look into and a big reason they’re using the PTR.
As for opting out-nah, it does not need that to be fine.
This:
And this:
Are not the same thing. Nice try trying to say I said something I did not say.
I don’t.
Not looking for a medal or pat on the head or anything of the sort.
It’s a dynamic event that I feel is going to be fun and engaging. I want to have the opportunity to play through it with people that want to be there - and dare I say have a great time role playing.
I hope people that think it’s going to be a cluster are wrong and there are tweaks that are made to try to make it run smoothly. I wish that those that want to not opt-in could do so and if they later decide they may have misjudged, they still get the chance to alter their decision. Ultimately what’s important to me is that people can have fun. Agency to me would mean that people can decide to change their minds, right? So I would err on the side of inclusion should someone later decide to opt-in.
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Then why don’t you argue why removing their agency is a good thing? Because it is “good for them”? Why do you get decide how they get to have fun?
Is it “because it is a pandemic and makes sense that everyone is affected”? Ok then explain why my logical extensions of that don’t also make sense?
Of course we couldn’t test that theory back then, but it could be tested on the PTR now. Maybe that’s the reason Blizzard enabled all races to be DKs?
Yeah, I’m stretch armstronging it but I’m bored.
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I’d agree. People should participate if they want. I’d participate if there are actual rewards and I felt those rewards are worth my time. I’ve no qualms though in that “snowflake carebears” want safe areas or even the ability to opt out. If this thread is any indication (and I doubt it is past the first day at most), their active participation isn’t needed since so many people are psyched and looking forward to it. Why make their lifes miserable? Only logical explanation I can muster is there are those players who legitimally get off on aggervating others and forcing their version of fun on others.
I used to be on a PvP server and had my fair share of ganking. It’s no different really. I didn’t ask for some high level or group of donkeyhats to come along and wreck me. They forced their will on me but I accepted that it was a PvP server and that was something that could happen.
Warmode exists for those who want to PvP. If people enjoyed PvP or the “gank/ganked” lifestyle, they have the ability to choose that at any time. The fact they don’t proves most people actually don’t want to be messed with by others in game without directly choosing it.
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Okay, is it the world that Blizzard has created (which you are referring to world building, lore and/or the very setting itself) is the visible effect on the world,
it the community and player reaction to it is the visible effect on the world,
or is it just killing NPC’s/Players is the visible effect on the word?
i don’t care which, but you kept on jumping on what “visible effect on the world” means. Which one is it? it can’t be nebulous and out there or change. 
The players who don’t want to participate simply don’t need to log into the event, oh and there’s plenty of time for them to unsubscribe long before it hits so they don’t have to waste their money on it either, blizzard was so thoughtful with their timing for you guys.
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So you think a reasonable compromise to the event is to tell people to just not login and/or quit?
Again I have to ask…why do YOU get to decide and dictate how THEY get to have fun? What new and exciting argument will you present that I haven’t already knocked down?
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How about stop crying about a limited time event. There are places you only have access to (like your WoD Garrison).
It will be here for 1 week. If you can’t handle being away for a week (if you don’t want to participate) I suggest seeking professional help for addiction.
100% it is, there doesn’t need to be a compromise at all, blizzard set up their event and many people want it to not change, its even clearly the most popular opinion in this thread by far. I don’t get to “decide” anything I’m simply a person using a product, blizzard on the other hand does and they have decided that this is the pre patch event for something that has only happened once before in the games 15+ years and will probably not happen again after this. If a few people don’t like it they can go play something else 
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Just like a rogue to evade something.
Again, what is the actual harm in allowing people who do not want to participate to have an opt out method that doesn’t involve them having to go to a defunct place that has no use in current content. What can they do there to progress their character besides do queue content (which they can easily do from a flying mount)?
We both know (and I am extending the benefit of the doubt you have some kind of actual intelligence) why you and your kind don’t want people to opt out…you want to force them to be a victim and an unwilling participant to your version of fun and you fear if Blizzard did give an opt out, there wouldn’t be enough of your kind to make the event worthwhile…just like gankers can’t satiate their lust for ganking lowbies and those weaker than them in warmode given participation is so low.
I’m of the opinion that if you wish to opt out, you can BUT you cannot access the quests and rewards if you do so. If you want the rewards you’ll have to participate in the world event, much like warmode.
The harm is it takes away from the legitimacy of the event, having a button to easily opt in/out of danger kinda negates the entire invasion of the scourge who for so long we have been told is a major thread without a lich king at the helm. There can be no escape from this danger.
Those people who don’t want to do with it can wait to progress their characters when the actual expansion launches which is meant for that, the pre patch is not. Also you keep crying about ganking but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with PVP happening in a PVP event.
Don’t like it? Opt out by hearthing to your garrison or logging out quite simple really, even someone with your intelligence should be able to grasp this concept
People can opt out. There are multiple ways (one which I gave an example to, and I will re-iterate which is to go to your WoD Garrison which only you have access to, or you can just not log in for that week).
If you can’t take a break for a week to avoid an event you don’t want to do, you need professional help for addiction.
Ah cool you want to go with the realism argument. Shall I go find it and post it for you here or did you already read it and are ready to debate the merits?
I mean good old realism after all. It’s super important for the players to have a realistic experience of what would happen if the scourge were to become a threat.
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Ah I see you don’t have any counter arguments in favour of an opt in/out. It’s nice to see how easy it is to shut down these people.
I love it!! Im running around as a zombie as we speak attacking all in my path!
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Oh it’s quite fun once you figure it out.
What are you talking about? I’ve presented many arguments for why allowing people to opt out is the correct approach. I’ve posted many times also with the realism argument too.
Quite frankly I am tired of repeating myself. I get the thread is long, but it is quite disingenuous to say I “have no counter arguments” when I’ve yet to actually have my arguments defeated in any kind of debate.