The Penance Problem

Penance is costing roughly 5% of a Priest’s mana and healing them for 45-72% of their HP. This spell has to be completely retuned.

Do not let the spell release like this.

As I have said before, add Weakened Soul to the Priest if they use it to heal themselves.

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It needs a serious look. It’s far too good and this is basically always true. Throughput down, mana cost up, change the ticks so they first one is small and the last one is big. These might be enough to make the spell worse enough to be in line with everything else.

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It is a capstone talent.

Shall we compare other classes’ capstone talents?

Edited to add:
This gives groups a reason to bring Disc Priests other than the ‘shield’.

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Except it isn’t a capstone talent. And if we compare it to other talents of similar depth, it is dramatically outperforming everything else.

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The only thing that needs to stop is people crying over what a skill at lvl 30 does.

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Are there any other abilities that have that sort of mana to throughout ratio?

I have good news! It will continue to get better with ranks and gear just like every other spell. It’s already overtuned at this point and it seems unlikely to be much different to other options relatively at 60.

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Can you clarify why this is an issue for you? How does it affect your character?

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Can you clarify how it is a capstone talent?

Do I need to clarify why a single ability being wildly overtuned is bad for the game? Do I really need to do that?

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The developers in their podcasts list out some of our 31, 41, and 51 point capstone talents.

Edit: I agree with you that tuning issues with skills can affect gameplay, I was simply asking for a personal perspective on how it would affect them.

Generally speaking, most people complain when they think it will negatively affect them, so I was just asking for specifics!!

Okay, so you just don’t know what a capstone talent is. Noted.

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You can’t imagine why such a powerful heal would be bad for the game? It’s completely unbalanced in PvP, and having such a tool will push out other healing specs pretty harshly in 10-player content where slots are extremely competitive.

It is none of these. It’s a 21 point talent, so it’s available only to priests who are deep Disc or give up their 31 point talent.

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Penance can only be taken by a Disc Priest who puts all their points in the Disc tree once reaching level 30.

Meaning that it is so high in the tree that it can be a part of hybrid builds.

Not even close to a capstone.

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Ya needs to either be tuned down or increase the cd on it

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Melee and hunter auto attacks out damage penance with 200 healing power atm, so there’s that.

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Honestly, I’d agree with you on semantics. It was their ‘choosing’ to call them that.

What? Care to show your math on that?

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Hunter is dramatically overtuned as well. Saw a bg where a hunter did over 100k damage. Every bg is dominated by hunter damage.

That same bg, a priest did 62k healing. Second highest? 17k by a Shaman.

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Shaman depleting 1800 health off of someone in 1.5-2 seconds as well at level 30 is wild.

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