The " Paladin Pull" is an issue in AV

In case you aren’t familiar with what this is, it is basically where 1-or more paladins runs in and aggro’s all the marshalls in Drek’ thar’s room and then run and jumps down the water fall. The marshalls then chase to the waterfall but wont jump down so they have to path all the way around through Frostwolf Village, during this whole time Drek is alone and killable. It is totally negating the mechanics of the battleground and should be considered an exploit. It needs to be addressed by Blizzard.
Here are some options:

  1. Have the Marshalls reset when someone jumps off the waterfall
  2. Have the Marshalls Chase down the waterfall
    I prefer the 1st option

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There are PVP solutions to that issue.

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I’m going to say no changes here, but please understand this isn’t the normal rubber stamp everyone blurts out when people ask for changes. If you are something of a WoW historian, you will know that AV has undergone more changes than anything else in the game.

There are dozens of patch notes that include changes to AV, each trying to address a map imbalance or a glitch ai behavior or something. AV has proven to be a never ending process of patches and fixes.

My long winded point is that Blizzard can’t set their foot upon that path without having to travel its entire length. It’s a can of worms they are not going to open.

It is what it is, warts and all… no changes. If you want that pull to fail, there is a pvp solution.

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There is a van glitch pull too.

and in all my av matches getting to exalted, i’ve seen the pally bubble drek thing exactly zero times.

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Played a game last night where horde had literally every objective 5 minutes in, it seemed like things were going well and I assumed defense had wiped them before they could cap FW or RH… until suddenly chat lights up with “EVERYONE RECALL” … so I recall to find alliance in Dreks room, with no warmasters to be found, and Drek dying in 30 seconds.

Nice version of AV you got here, Blizzard. If only there were another version we could use where it wasn’t possible to ignore 99% of the map’s design to do nothing more than kill 1 mob without any PvP…

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Not a valid excuse for an exploit to remain in the game. And not having paladins or a cliff as close by to jump off makes it significantly more improbable.

Not to mention horde can’t create 35+ man premades to make sure everyone is on the same page.

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you guys want no changes, that’s what you get.

no changes

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wasn’t supposed to be one. i would wish both be fixed.

sure you can. you can made as many “premades” as you want the exact same way.

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I am a pally and I have never seen this done.

And I take part of the premades.

Not sure what to tell you.

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From someone who plays horde and alliance, there are premades above our pay grade that you don’t see if you haven’t seen it done, I’m not in any high rankers discord (the ones who are exclusively high parses/high ranks, like rank 11 and above) but i can tell you that they do exist and they do exactly this strat or the mage pull seemingly every game, these are 20k honor per hour guys.

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They haven’t done anything about alliance “premades” leaving dozens and dozens of games to start with only 15 alliance and making the lives of every alliance player outside of the premades miserable in AV, I doubt they really care unfortunately.

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That’s funny it’s in every one I go into.

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Yep! I’ve brought this up several times on the forums and realize like you do it needs Blizzard intervention. Something needs to change and soon because it is beyond ridiculous at this point. I just had a 6 minute loss which I did not know was even possible because its usually 7 minutes so they’re getting better at it.

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High end premades do it all the time. 24/7 premades tend to avoid too technical stuff and are usually like a week behind in term of strats. Not that i mind as i play there as well as dealing with someone’s mental breakdown, as i’ve seen happen in some other discords, if someone messed a pull wasn’t something i needed in my life.

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Ok, fine, fix them both. I have seen it happen dozens of times.

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Im a pally that premades and have never seen it. I think this only happens in the hardcore private premades. The public ones I use basically never want to use this strat because its hard to pull off or something.

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OK, This isn’t about premades, and I have already stated I have seen this happen dozens of times.

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Mind you, I haven’t done AV in a long time, but can’t Horde do the same tactic and kite off the bridge/ravine? Or is that too far/not feasible?

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So… What you’re saying is you were aware of the opponent’s strategy, chose to wilfully ignore it, and then you lost because of it? :thinking:

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Fix them both, this isn’t about who can cheat equally, this about a broken exploit in the game. This trick totally negates the mechanics of AV.

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