The only change that shaman need to be brought in line

All I know is that my fresh 40 pally doesn’t get one shot by shammies.

It takes those poor shaman 2 globals to kill me. If I have a bubble/LoH/hammer up I’ll live a few more seconds.

It’s all very skillful. Then again, I can delete someone pretty hard if the crit god is feeling merciful lol

The problem with what’s set up here is:
It’s minmaxing everything to get the biggest AP value, instead of what would actually be the case.

In Raid, Shamans have about 1000-1100 AP at best because PvE is WF/RB, which is a lot, but as warriors and Rogues can get 800-900, and have multiple attacks that add damage onto their attacks (unlike Shaman) it’s not as outsized a difference as you would think. (This being why warriors out DPS shamans on low-armor bosses by a significant margin.)

TL;DR
He’s running a PvP Imbue setup that you wouldn’t have in PvE, and giving it all the buffs you could squeeze out of PvE and wouldn’t run in PvP.

Nobody is running around in PvP or PvE with 1600+ AP. That’s why his dumb little picture only includes the stats/gear and nothing else. He literally built a strawman for you to burn down.

EDIT:
His original thread where he posted this nonsense has been removed. I cannot imagine why.

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it should be a dmg nerf AND require a shield. ele shouldn’t be able to freely run WotE without any damage penalty imo. but yeah I think that would bring it in line with everyone else. their tankiness + dmg (enhance is just cracked dmg) is too much. ele damage is more acceptable but not with the added bonus of wearing a shield and barely taking any damage

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cant kick a elemental mastry lava burst but nice try

Yeah. Remember when Priests and Hunters were OP in Phase 1, and then Druids.

Where did those classes disappear to? owait…

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