which kind of bring back the original point : you cannot recreate the 2004 experience because we live in 2020.
it’s not your first MMO anymore, the community isn’t new, the game isn’T new, the tools available aren’t new… and so on.
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the fun part in classic is the casual guild are often more stressfull than hardcore guild… for the reasons you outlined above ( you’ll wipe yourself into not being able to afford repair bill).
as a result you spend faaaaaaaar more time raiding and far more gold buying consumable in dad guild than in hardcore guild ( well, minus the very-top who use flasks as mana pots)
Thats why the ultra intense minmax mentality bleeding into every aspect of the game was very puzzling to me. Its not necessary. It wasnt even necessary 15 years ago. These arent world firsts.
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it’s not really ‘ultra minmax’ mentality tho.
it’s just knowing what’s good and what isn’t.
like knowing that fury warrior in leather are actually really good… even if you don’t obsess about what item is BIS and which one is only 95% BIS.
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the obsessive world buff farming, spending half your time logged out because you have world buffs, using hundreds of gold in pots, etc - thats ultra minmax. and its not at all necessary.
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Maybe my point was missed. If you disagree with my statement that WoW classic is the easiest iteration of WoW, that’s fine. A calm and well presented counter to my claim is also fine. But when there’s all of this emotion, this need to see the worst intent in me, I see people need to defend “difficulty” as somehow important to your enjoyment of the game as something insecure.
Why is it important to you that others view the game’s difficulty a particular way? Why are some people threatened that if others view the game as easy or difficult, that it some how invalidates their own personal enjoyment of the game? It does not. Its not important. That’s the point which I feel is being missed.
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I think your describing a semi-casual guild. If at any point I feel stressed cause the guild cant beat a boss…its time to move on.
But I see your point. Some people may find that taking 39 others who cant tie their shoes irl into raids and expecting to rival APES clear times as more stressful. I know what to expect when I join a casual guild so no stress on my end.
Some of the most memerable moments Ive had in wow are from getting drunk af and wiping to dog packs in MC. If I was the least bit concerned or even half seroius about “winning” in a game that require a reliance on more people than 1 (myself), Id be in a hardcore progression guild.
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No one is any of those things that’s just your perception. Difficulty is subjective and your anecdotal experience of people feeling like this is all in your head.
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raid logging was definately a thing back in 2004… and that’s mostly due to classic not offering much outside of raid once you got your desired PVP rank.
also, a large chunk of world buff are basically effortless : DM, ony, rend, nef and ZG really doesn’t require much … just a server discord and no unique snowflake jamming up the timer.
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Well I don’t know who these people were but they aren’t reading these threads.
NOBODY says that Classic raiding is more difficult than Mythic.
Anyway I was talking to the OP who hasn’t responded but I can see you’re on multiple threads doing the same thing. Hopefully whenever you’ve gotten bored of trolling and climbing up the highest pedestal on which you talk down to other people (as you are doing in this thread) you can go away and actually play the (Shadowlands) game you claim to enjoy so much.
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To this I would say…what better advice to follow than your own? I agree with the posters above who recognized the passive/aggressive “advice” and recognize that it’s actually you and others like you who have the “obsession” with difficulty. /cheers
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now.
not so much a year ago.
also the ‘’ I can raid normal, who have the same bosses as mythic, therefor I don’t need to see mythic’’ argument was thrown quite a bit.
Hopefully whenever you’ve gotten bored of trolling and climbing up the highest pedestal on which you talk down to other people (as you are doing in this thread)
did I hurt someone feelings?
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Most of the insecurity that I’ve been seeing has emanated from retail players because they feel intimidated that people might actually prefer another version of WoW than the one they started playing.
Most of the people posting since yesterday are retail players in a classic forum I mean what does that really tell you?
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Doubtful. I think “annoy” is a better way to put it. Kinda like when a mosquito is buzzing around your ears with that high pitched whine.
that’s a lot of replies for a simple mosquito.
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it tells me that today ( / this week) is one of the rare week where something relevant happen in classic ( IE, new tier), that the real content has begun in retail ( raid / M+ start next week) and that people are generally bored during the lockdown / pandemic.
it could also indicate that several retail player also raid-log on classic… cause let’s be honest there’s not much to do on classic at this point if you’ve played since launch.
We don’t want to do our jobs at work either, none of the other threads have enough drama to keep our attention but if you guys could step it up a notch im starting to get disinterested.
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oh don’t worry, you lost me interest soon as you couldn’T muster an argument better than a soccer-mom and the ‘’ for someone who have no leg, walking is difficult!’’ type of crap.
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I mean i cant make you understand simple concepts, some people are willfully ignorant.
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I tried to make it simple and provide example.
but apparently that was still too much for you.