The Nightborne, the Void Elves and Lightforged Draenei class struggles

Hi, guys!
I’m Issandriel (the nightborne), i’m Astelius (the Night Elf), i’m Maalek (the Void Elf) and I’m Endariael (the Lightforged Draenei).
I am here to propose a fresh and clean discussion about classes/specs and proper race appropriation.
Besides Blizzard tell us about how the classes are supposed to work, in the comics, and physical history of the game things tend to change.
As a main Nightborne and Lightforged Draenei, which i love btw, i’m excited about with the new customization that’s coming to us. Things that should it be at least in the very fresh start.
But something is still bothering me, and it is class placements and heroic classes and their specs.
I’m going to work on the many topics so far.
To start, let’s go all the way to Suramar, where we have the Nighthold. The very first raid where we face Elisande, the prime magister. But, in the walking towards her we have the chance to fight Etraeus, the Star Augur. And many other minions whose, over all the denial that blizzard have spilled on us, are Druids.
But not like any other druids, but Astrologists. A person whose can map and comprehend the skies. With him, we have High Botanists, like Tel’Arn. Which is ALSO A DRUID. And than, I asked myself upon passing through them: Why there ain’t the option to be a Druid…? Y’all gonna use the same excuse: 'Cause Cenarius never taught them the true druidism, so, they can’t.
Forgetting that, being a magister is something that encircles all types of magic, thing that the Nightborne are and pretty well know how to be. Besides, they can be monks… Something that is clearly not so convincing. And, Tel’Arn could be a good exercise for more specializations for Druid, a Botanist would be astounding. Imagine Nightborne chloromancers doing dps using nature?

Following that mindset, we can go waaaaaaaay forward to our lovely friends from De Other Side, no pun intended. No, not Bwonsandi. The Void Elfs, it’s told that the Void Elves are some whose, in hunger for knowledge and arcane magic, abandoned or got expelled from Silvermoon and decided to follow Alleria’s footsteps towards a new power, the Void. But… Most of them were, and will NEVER be apart of the Sun Well. That being said. Why the seven hells they can’t be Paladins? But a better question is why can’t they be paladins with a much neat specialization that focus on the void and dark energies, like an Oathbreaker / Voidsworn? Much like being a knight who, on a lack of faith in the light, became a void user. The Voidsworn would be focused on using polearms, 2h swords and maces/hammers, as core weapons.

Moving on to the Night Elves, i mean, yeah, NEs can be very popular in the alliance. But, can I talk about the Naga for a second? NEs who followed Azshara, got real crap on their backs. But what happened with them since N’zoth got defeated? That’s right, a big nothing. Nagas, as other NEs were always related to magic, elemental, arcane, divine or even, if you might believe, dark magic. Such magic that could help them to mesmerize their appearances to look less kobra-ish. Believing that Azshara is alive and working on a new plan of a pérfect elvish society creation… Why can’t the Kal’Dorei that were transformed become Naz’Dorei, and help Azeroth? Think about the possibilities. Shaman and Warlock could be a thing for them and actually it works pretty well with the storyline. Something that none Elf could it be at the same time. Imagine the possibilities of a Shaman Naga whose can evoke the power of the tides and storms to obliterate their queen’s enemies? Or even a Warlock with dark tide power to heal and curse and the very same time?

Now, for the count, the almighty Light Forged Draenei. Those who swore to serve the Light, not once but for their whole life. But… Not that much, since they can be Death Knights. And here we go, the Draenei, much like all the races in or out Azeroth have some different names for their classes. For the Paladin aspect they have the Vindicator. For the Warrior, Gladiators… For Mages, Battlemages. But something is kinda missing.
Why, the Draenei, whose were so aligned with the elements, and could be shamans once can’t anymore when they become Lightforged? Why not work on a heroic specialization that give them the power to bend light into shamanic techniques? Much like with Enhancement which you can endow your weapons with the elements but now with light and those crystals that absorb dark properties? Much like a TANKER WOULD DO SO… And why can the Lightforged Draenei can’t be combat priests since the only priest DPS spec is Shadow? Vindication, which is a canonic class for them.
What I am trying to say is: The allied races Could and should have some especial or heroic specializations to create a different experience with the classes. Even though some skill could be similar to their different counterpart. In reality, all the races should have heroic/particular classes that englobes their cultures and only be shared, with a different name by their faction counterpart.

Humans could be Gladiators, Orcs could be Brutes.
Night Elves could be Night Wardens while Darkspear Trolls can be Witch Doctors.
There are MANY canonical classes that made through the game and can directly pointed in the game dungeons, but they don’t even get to be remembered as a simple specialization. 'Cause Blizzard, in the very two expansion had give us nothing about the class and gameplay working. We don’t even see planning of a new class coming in Shadowlands, a expansion which have SO MUCH POTENTIAL for new classes and specs. BFA could have bring to us, the Tinker, the Blood Mage, the Brute and the Paragon. But… again nothing.

Well, now i want to know what you all think. We’re here to talk, and discuss about that so, go for it.

Because there were different groups and one group was HEAVILY influenced by the shaman and the other not so much. Also, the draenei themselves were quite prejudicial to the Broken, the lightforged probably would be more so.

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Sure, but if one is already a shaman and gets Lightforged, then they are respecting both worlds :woman_shrugging:

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That’s exactly what I am going for.
They can’t erase that past, that fragment of their story.
If they don’t feel like doing that classes again, heroic classes are there for this only meaning, you know?

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That assume dreanei shaman want to be lightforged and lightforged draenei would want them in their ranks. At this point I doubt either trusts the other implicitly. I doubt the elements would be too happy having someone “too” dedicated to one of the elements.

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Huge assumption and we don’t know. Blizzard has failed to supply us with such explanations and with Lightforging in general.

Seeing as the ‘elements’ are fine with just making a contract deal, I think they’d be alright.

I think the “elements” are at peace with their contracts. Like Autai said, if you do a contract is already something VERY important and respectable to them. If you’re going to learn NEW techniques at time goes by… That’s on you. As long you don’t reach your thoughts out of that contract, you must be in peace as well.

If memory serves, playable Lightforged are implied to be veterans of the Argus campaign. (been a while but I’m pretty sure the introductory dialogue/quests treat you as one of Turalyon’s people, and a new ally to the Alliance)

Let me give you my extreme spicy hot fire take:

Give Lightforged Warlocks, but their demons are Lightforged demons and their shadow spells are given a Light skin.

I’m here for thoughts. No idea is out of the boat, yet. But sure, Warlocks that work with light instead of darkness much like a Evoker/Exarch.

It definitely seems that way, but it did provide us with the introspection that regular Draenei can be Lightforged if they go through the deadly trial.

However we can use a different class as an example over Shaman. The Draenei that we directly assist is a Monk and for some reason that class is unavailable to the LFD.

Turning to face Tuluun, the Draenei Artificer sneers contemptuously.

Draenei Artificer says: How can I be expected to get any work done with that thing spreading its heresy?

The Draenei Artificer sighs disgustedly as he turns back to his work.

This is from a REGULAR draenei. How much more from the fanatical light wielders?

We know the elements are at war and the light, like the other “primal” elements are trying to conquer the universe. I doubt the elements themselves want any part of that.

One Draenei != all others. :woman_shrugging:

One would say that they’re at war with the Goblins polluting their land as well as they cause direct anger with said elements. :thinking:

No it doesn’t. But if this is the reaction of a non-lightforged draenei, how much more for people who think the light is the only path?

I think there is a different with the temporary change the goblins can do to the world and a permanent paradise/hell of turning the entire universe into golden crystals.

My original point is that we don’t know. Blizzard has failed to supply us with that context.

The Lightforged aren’t out there conquering or forcing individuals to join the Light. Sure there are probably (important word there) fanatics, but Blizzard hasn’t giving us anything to reflect on. We have AU windchime doing shady stuff, but then we have more examples of the Naaru not forcing such practices. :woman_shrugging:

The world building of Lightforged is shallow and under developed.