What I’m referring to is their abandonment of the nightwell. Now sure it was good that they kicked their magic dependence. But they didn’t have to let the nightwell disapate for that.
I get that it was a symbolic gesture, but they could have kept it to use its power for defence and to rebuild Suramar. Abandoning practically served no purpose as the Arcandor fruit cured their magic addiction. They could have fully used the fonts power now that most of it wasn’t being devoured.
Agreed.
First Arcanist Thalyssra says: We must put the Nightwell behind us. We must take responsibility for our failings, and repay our debt to the people of Azeroth.
Those two things are not really related, except possibly in the way that a large font of Arcane power would be really useful in repaying debts.
They “repaid their debt” by letting us take the Eye of Aman’thul to save Azeroth, which in turn meant no longer being able to maintain their Nightwell with it.
While the story beats made it clear that we’d be after their Pillar, the players and their allies had never actually been promised the Eye as part of helping the Nightborne. Thalyssra letting the Nightwell die so we could take their Pillar was her way of making amends for what Elisande and their people had done and nearly allowed the Legion to do with it.
The Nightwell was dying without the Eye of Aman’thul. They had the choice to try and maybe save it through who knows what way, or let it die out.
It’s not just symbolic. They needed the magic of a powerful artifact to keep it active, what would they need to save it? Would it be worth it? Would it be a bandaid solution, or would it be viable for the long term? Would they even be able to save it in the first place, or would it have been a futile endeavor?
Also the nightwell was the source of all there problems.
I don’t think that’s what she was talking about. At the time she said that the Eye of Amanthul had already been given over and the topic was whether Arcanist Valtrois would try to stabilize the Nightwell without it.
All wonderful questions that they never actually answered because they never even considered the cost of keeping it.
You guys are giving this all much more thought than they did at the time.
Don’t they start to become Withered if they get too far from the Nightwell? Or was that Elisande’s doing?
They probably would have ended up being addicts again, see the Blood Elves, if they destroy this Sunwell, they’ll probably feel the withdrawal again.
There was the possibility of stabilizing the well even without the eye, not sure how that would work, but they made it sound like it was a feasible option.
Yeah it did sound like stabilizing was a possibility. Thalyssra chose to let it go as a symbol of faith for their new allies. I wonder if she feels odd knowing that the Blood Elves stil have a functioning well?
It’s a big character building moment for the Nightborne. They are no longer slaves to its will and can no longer be tempted by its power.
Not to mention they are removing a potentially crippling weakness for good. They’re better off without it in almost every single aspect.
In a world where the writers hate pragmatism, pragmatic is unpragmatic, unpragmatism pragmatic.
Well, she did visit the Sunwell.
But it’s more stable and less “problematic” then the Nightwell.
But I’m curious as to what long tern effect the Sunwell would have on the visiting Nightborne.
The Nightwell didn’t have free will. And they’d been cured of their addiction to it well before this through the application of magic fruit.
It wasn’t a question of proximity. The Nightborne consume the Nightwell, in form of arcwine, as a form of nourishment. That’s their addiction. It’s not an ambient addiction like the Blood Elves were/are to the Sunwell. Once they eat an arcan’dor fruit the addiction is gone. At that point the Nightwell is nothing more than power source for them.
IMO they should’ve kept it. It seems dumb to allow something that powerful to be destroyed just because you were forced to misuse it in the past. Now that the shield was down and they had access to the wider world, the need to use the Nightwell as nourishment was gone. There are no downsides to keeping it.
They only downside was scorn from the Kaldorei but that’s to be expected. They could probably restore it to a fraction of its power. Using waters from the sunwell or the hyjal well (they’d have to be extremely sneaky) and a large amount of what’s left of arcwine and the well could be reconstituted.
Really? I thought that was The Legion … Huh.
It was a neccessary thing to do. If the Nightwell had remained, it would have recorrupted the Nightborne into a new addiction cycle.
It’s also worth noting that the Nightwell wasn’t just a surface lake/pool empowered by vials of Well of Eternity water like the Sunwell or the Well under Nordrassil. Elisande had used the Eye of Aman’thul to bore a hole down into Azeroth and tap her lifeblood. It was basically a wound in the world-soul being held open by the Pillar, making it more like the original Well of Eternity than any of the other elf-made Wells.
Considering what was going on at the time (i.e. the whole post-Legion, wounded planet Azerite business), it’s possible (perhaps even likely) trying to preserve the Nightwell - i.e. keeping the wound pried open - could have further worsened Azeroth’s condition. There were already implications of something bad and Old God-ish being underneath the Broken Isles (see: Xal’atath’s dialogue in Faronaar, reference to the region hosting a massive battle between N’zoth and Y’shaarj, and the inexplicable/as yet unexplained presence of a titan facility beneath the Tomb of Sargeras), and frankly the symptoms of Withered come across as awfully “void-y” and similar to pale orcs when compared to effects of withdrawal in Sunwell-fed elves, so when N’zoth and his forces make their moves in 8.3, the Nightborne (and the world at large) may be a lot better off having not kept the Nightwell around.
Warcraft: The Expansion Where Everything Justs Works OUt. doesn’t really sound like that fun a game to play.
It’s a figure of speech, a turn of phrase. I’m aware that the Nightwell isn’t necessarily “alive” in the (normal?) sense, but it was still an active entity.
And while yes, the Magic Fruit Tree did cure them of their dependence, letting the Nightwell “die” as they claim is them essentially shutting the door on them ever becoming dependent on it again.
Like I said, it was a character building moment. It’s definitely more symbolic than anything, but it’s actually a very good moment, and a very good conclusion to their Legion Story Arc