The new Guild UI and Permissions...yikes (Part 1)

07/17/2018 12:12 PMPosted by Draical
07/17/2018 12:08 PMPosted by Raicolette
I extremely hate this change. Man, I tell y'all what though, from 7.3.5, broken transmog farming, guild permissions, class pruning, and the theme of BfA is making this difficult to consider staying subbed.


Pretty much this.


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07/17/2018 12:13 PMPosted by Osiris
07/17/2018 12:12 PMPosted by Draical
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Pretty much this.


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Agreed
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<span class="truncated">...</span>So sheer laziness. How fantastic. What is this communities thing, anyway?


Communities are guilds that aren't guilds. Think discord servers, but in game. Same concept. Lives alongside guilds in the guild UI. You can just create "groups" aka communities and invite players to them, to have separate chats and voice servers etc.
So basically I get a dumbed down version of Discord with less permission options than Discord and then get screwed out of my guild rank options because of it.

How lovely.
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07/17/2018 12:22 PMPosted by Kaiyeri
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Communities are guilds that aren't guilds. Think discord servers, but in game. Same concept. Lives alongside guilds in the guild UI. You can just create "groups" aka communities and invite players to them, to have separate chats and voice servers etc.
So basically I get a dumbed down version of Discord with less permission options than Discord and then get screwed out of my guild rank options because of it.

How lovely.


Yes.
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Guess my main guild won't be having any officers. RIP.
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Having the permissions separated let guilds have officers at various levels. It also was a way to show trust for being a good officer.

"You've been with us awhile, I'm giving you more guild privileges. You now get access to this and this."
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Well, THAT is a complete and total clusterf**k. I foresee a lot of officers getting demoted.
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07/17/2018 11:43 AMPosted by Kaiyeri
07/17/2018 11:41 AMPosted by Xiata
I guess they figure an officer should be someone you trust with these sorts of things.
And a lot of us used officer chat for our RP chat, not for officers. Or we'd have different levels of officers.

Why the hell would they take away options??


That's the question us in the XP From Dungeons thread, which mostly turned into a thread about why they nerfed heirlooms, XP needed per level, and buffed mob HP at the same time, have been asking for half a year. Why would you take away options?

It's a question you will never, ever get an answer to.
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07/17/2018 12:51 PMPosted by Verdre
Having the permissions separated let guilds have officers at various levels. It also was a way to show trust for being a good officer.

"You've been with us awhile, I'm giving you more guild privileges. You now get access to this and this."


This 100% as well.
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07/17/2018 11:43 AMPosted by Kaiyeri
07/17/2018 11:41 AMPosted by Xiata
I guess they figure an officer should be someone you trust with these sorts of things.
And a lot of us used officer chat for our RP chat, not for officers. Or we'd have different levels of officers.

Why the hell would they take away options??


Because Blizzard always takes away options.
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I'm confused. As an officer in my guild, I can already do all of those things. What are you complaining about?
Why would they do this!

I let people that are not officer rank have the power to change their own notes and things. But now I cannot let those ppl do that because I would have to check mark that box and let them be able to view the officer channels which is for my officers only...this is stupid.
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slowly every change whittles wow down to the simplicity of a mobile game
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07/17/2018 01:12 PMPosted by Gormosh
I'm confused. As an officer in my guild, I can already do all of those things. What are you complaining about?


Because you were trusted with that power. But not all guilds want to do that for their officers. Honestly there's NO reason they needed to take away those options.
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I am the only person who I want to be able to change the MoTD in my guild. I am not the only person whom I want to be able to change calendar events. See the problem, Blizz? Fix 1 thing, break 3 more in the process.
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07/17/2018 11:41 AMPosted by Xiata
I guess they figure an officer should be someone you trust with these sorts of things.


problem is you could be having a beef with someone you trust. doesn't mean they won't @**#*%%* you over.
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TY Jeebus I'm not in an actual guild.
Apparently hearing reports that they also got rid of the ability to see "Last Online" on the guild roster. I can't login at the moment to confirm for myself.

For example, you would see a player offline and it would say "Last Online < hour" or "Last online 16 days". Now you don't have that information anymore.

Wonderful.
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07/17/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Osiris
Whose bright idea was to lump all these permissions under a single check box?

https://i.imgur.com/v7WlrcH.png

Now to give someone access to officer chat, or give them the ability to set their own public note, I have to give them the ability to delete people's messages, calendar events, notes, gmotd, kick people from voice chat, etc.

Thanks for taking more control away from the players....in favor for watered down solutions.

[Edit] for those not aware - you were previously able to control all these things individually, per rank.

WHO THE $%^& THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A "GOOD IDEA?!"

AS A GUILD MASTER I AM TICKED OFF!!!

THIS IS GOING TO DESTROY OUR ENTIRE GUILD STRUCTURE!!!!

SERIOUSLY BLIZZARD, OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT BROKEN, THIS WAS ONE THAT WAS FINE!
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One step closer to guilds being nothing but alt banks in the future.
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