The more money blizzard makes the more their product sucks

It is genuinely impressive to see such a strong negative correlation between the amount of money blizzard makes and the quality of their product.

It is now standard for our friends list’s to simply not show up anymore.

inviting friends to a group doesnt work half the time.

Random resets.

Etc, etc.

Blizzard prioritizes wokeness over skill and experience in their developers now.

And that evoker starting zone holy shhhhhh i laughed at how bad it was!

Oh hey, wanna contact support, ever? good luck! its nearly impossible to even find an avenue to open a ticket and then youll wait over a week for a response.

How can a major gaming company be so bad at what they do lol

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So their game shoulda sucked the worst in Wotlk?

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don’t be naive

they make way more money now due to cash shop gold

which was the primary driver for designing to drive grind instead of creating player value

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Well then the game should be getting a lot better after they lose China.

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They will most definitely replace that company they were using. No way they just let that go

I love how the OP still plays a game that apparently “sucks” and implies, at least to my ears, is getting worse.

what do you mean? i never speculated why or how they make more money now lol.

all im saying is that, the more they make, the worse their games are.

but its like you said, they dont care about the quality of the game nor their developers, they just wanna make sure people buying stuff from the shop

It genuinely surprises me how many people apparently play this game, despite claiming they don’t enjoy it or like it.

Source : Make a thread titled “what was the last expansion you enjoyed”. You will see an overwhelming amount of responses showing that people have not enjoyed playing WoW in a long time, yet they still play it.

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bruh how would i know it sucks if i didnt play lmao.

im going to continue to play too.

what, do you think only non consumers are supposed to complain about the product? :joy:

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was responding to the malgo guy who was apparently oblivious to the effect of cash shop gold on revenue and how it pressures changes to design

I dunno man. Last time I thought a game/service sucked I stopped playing and paying for it.

Example. I think FFXIV sucks. Its not for me. I stopped playing.

I’ve notoriously defended blizzard against the echo chamber of cry babies that make up this forum. I always receive an overwhelmingly negative response from the players who claim defending blizzard is like defending the devil.

go look at my post history if you care enough lol.

that being said, im just making a review of the game right now. a non biased one too.

not crying because of game design or game style CHOICES blizzard makes.

i think its childish to complain about an artists work and demand they make it your way instead.

but the bugs, lack of customer support, and money chugging are things that warrant complaints.

I mean. Thats all irrelevant to anything I stated. I dont care if you want to complain about customer support, or whatever.

But you are the one that is stating the game sucks.

You are also saying you will continue to play it.

Sorta giving Blizzard mixed signals.

“Well they say they dont like this, but they are willing to put up with it. So dunno if we should actually change it”

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ah i think you misunderstand.

and i dont blame you because as i say, these forums are an echo chamber of entitled brats demanding the game be built their way.

its not the game at its core im complaining about. its the horrible support, frequent bugs, money grabbing methods, planned obselence, etc.

the games themselves i love. my favorite games ever. and thats why ill put up with it but let out my complaints here and there lol

I think Blizz has hired Kathleen Kennedy as a Dev…

Because what makes money isn’t always directly related to making something ‘fun’ (which is an entirely subjective term in itself). If it was the case, then EA would’ve been bankrupt ages ago.

This has nothing to do with anything when it comes to actual technical competency. When you get a bunch of new hires, or outsource an external team, it takes a significant amount of time to get them up to the date with all the legacy code. Replacing someone in tech isn’t as easy as just “ok here’s some documents you can read in 1 week to get up to speed.” You have to fully understand the thought process behind the code, and the complexity is exponentially increased due to how old the game is.

The only real issue you can focus on is that the creative talent that formed the game have left the company, and we’re left with a new group of people who have their own preferences and vision of the game. If you’ve done ANY sort of creative work, you’d understand that people create from their own understanding of the world. If you hold it to the same standard, then you’ll be disappointed because you’re not getting the same creative talent.

This is like getting upset over why X-Men First Class was so different in quality from X-Men Age of Apocalypse. You have different directors, cinematography, and screenwriters.

I’d say that’s its fair to have criticism or distaste, but then it’s your own responsibility to decide for yourself if you want to keep supporting the game. If you choose to do so despite not liking what you see, then own up to the fact that you have an unhealthy relationship with your own vitriol.

brother im a professional software developer and im currently senior dev lead where i work.

i interview, hire, and fire. i assure you i know what im talking about lol.

nothing you said related to my point either.

that doesnt change the fact that prioritizing things like race, political views, gender, etc has an impact when choosing a diversity hire over an experienced hire solely for the purpose of being more diverse. ive seen this in real time at a previous job, but you dont have to have that first hand experience to understand this concept.

But ultimately, I am probably off target here. This probably isnt even about the skill of the developers but more so impossible deadlines and the company cutting corners on QA and testing.

ALSO lmao:

Me: complains about lack of customer support, alarmingly increased amount of breaking bugs, other technical issues.

you:

yo i think youre posting in the wrong thread.

i love the game itself.

Yup exactly. Blizzard has become awful with QA and testing. I’m too lazy to read up about the details, but I won’t be surprised if the higher ups just set arbitrary deadlines and the developers have settled with a culture of cutting corners and taking short-cuts.

You associated ‘woke’ with declining quality instead of going into to the more pressing and obvious issues. It’s not my fault you decided to use that heuristic lmao

I do not think the starting zone is bad. I found it quite fun. I simply ran thru the whole thing with just a few uses of Soar.

I have done 3 evokers thru it and I am not tired of it yet.

Got 3 more in the queue to start leveling them tomorrow.

Took me 1 hour 45 minutes to get thru the last one. No ground mounts were ever used.

you speak well but your words are rooted in very poor logic.

“if you have any complaint about a product you consume and you dont drop it immediately then you have an uNhEaLtHy ReLaTiOnShIp WiTh YoUr OwN vItRiOl.”

no offense meant but, it really doesnt seem like you know what you are talking about :confused: