The "More Info" description of Orcs in the Character creation made me lol

“The Orc race originated from the planet Dreanor. A peaceful people with shamanistic beliefs.”

A Peaceful People.

Oh yes, The WARsong Clan were certainly all peaceful and hippie shamans right?

I like to ask the Ghosts of dead Ogres in Gorgrond how truly peaceful the Blackrock Clan was to them. Blackhand only wanted to initiate diplomacy…with an Axe.

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Lmao. Weren’t the Ogres enslaving the Orcs tho?

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Which is why they used an Axe in their “diplomacy” with the Ogres.

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I mean slave drivers don’t really deserve diplomacy extended to them imo

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I really don’t understand why Blizzard goes to such lengths to whitewash races, characters, and histories. It’s very clear that no one on their writing staff has the talent for nuance or realism. That any of those aforementioned qualities were accidental byproducts, and not actual attempts at creating a world.

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That description was written by Thrall.

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To be fair there were reletively peaceful clans like the Shadowmoon and technically Frostwolf clans. The latter as far as I know did fight in wars but were not a pure warlike culture.

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Weren’t these fairly recent retcons?

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The Frostwolf Clan consistently were the only “Good/Honorable” Orcs in all the retcons of the First and Second War.

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Ahh. The awkwardness that comes from wanting to make your first villains into heroes and then having new people come in decades later to go “but what if we didn’t do that?”

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Well it’s technically peace if all your enemies are dead.

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To be fair, it’s probably about the Frostwolves. They’re the good ones.

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I don’t understand your phrasing here.

Weren’t Doomhammer and co. portrayed as warmongering like the rest of the orcs in novels such as Day of the Dragon etc. and it wasn’t until the days leading up to WoD when Durotan and co were retconned into being good orcs who never drank demon blood?

If you think that’s funny, go hunt down the description of the Horde of on the WoW website.

It’s literally the complete and total opposite of everything the Horde has done in BfA. And it was updated right BEFORE BfA launched.

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It’s as if the new writers sat down and saw “Heroic peace loving Orcs” in the description and thought, “but what if the Orcs were actually bloodthirsty warmongering monsters. I bet no one has ever done THAT before.”

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It really subverted my expectations!

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And this is why there were horde players who saw WoD as a recon to make the Orcs look worse. What your reading was the original lore and history before Blizzard they needed more ‘Savage’.

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“Peacesong Clan” just didn’t roll off the tongue as well as “Warsong Clan”.

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Flowerpicker clan best orc clan.

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Which in itself was a retcon! The original orcs in Warcraft 1 and 2 were generally evil as heck. If anything Chronicles/WoD just returned them to their savage roots.

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