Took them a while to catch up for my money, but I’m seeing this sentiment showing up in the wild a lot more often these days. Taliesin & Evitel video featuring jokes about Horde not being in TWW, and Halduron’s impending doom, now Bellular is dropping a full length video discussing the topic at length.
Would have appreciated a deeper dive in some segments, like Ebonhorn shunting his Tauren history almost entirely in DF, but it is still nice to have eyes on it with a larger reach to percolate the topic into a higher sphere of prominence.
While “yes”, their solution to realizing they have forgotten about The Horde again can’t always be a Thrall cameo. The Horde is the Shaman faction, though. It is the one slice of quasi-Cosmic that they can lay claim to, one that should ground them overwhelmingly in expansions themed around Worldsouls, who by their very nature influence the elemental forces taking shape around them.
I’d like to say there’s a common misconception that there’s just no room for a story based on Horde themes, but it is probably more accurate to say there are too many people suffering from a crucial lack of imagination.
I don’t think it’s necessarily a problem that Horde doesn’t have cosmic forces empowering them, it works with the scrappy underdog feeling the Horde’s supposed to have.
The problem is that Blizzard just always uses the races tied to cosmic forces like it’s a Pokemon game and they’re matching types.
Good video. I’d argue the Horde was fatally mishandled as early as MoP, especially now we know Alliance player disgruntlement motivated Garrosh’s heel turn in the writing room, but that was before all goodwill was exhausted. Forget it now.
He’s also correct in that Lor’themar, thus far the only beneficiary of the warchief->council transition, will find this a tainted blessing when he runs into the same irrelevance and expendability that killed Vol’jin in stories told through a blue lens. Problems he looks set to be facing presently.
Neutral Azeroth is really not to the Horde’s benefit.
I don’t really care, I’ll take the wins this preview has rolled out. I think it was dumb to expect Alliance not to meaningfully participate in the hub. So long as the story regards Silvermoon as a Horde capital and it remains so, I’m happy with that particular situation.
We’ve got Silvermoon remaining a Horde capital, Liadrin taking some prominence, an updated Quel’thalas, the Amani getting a whole zone and involved storyline that isn’t “punching bags again” that is set to add some troll options (with a heavy does of hinting that playable Amani are in the works), a Haranir zone that (while I’m not excited about the Haranir themselves) is going to feature some older school Emerald Dream/Nightmare lore and potentially the missing Old God. All of this kicked off with a cinematic that gives us Lor’themar looking and acting like a boss. As far as lines that go hard, “You can’t even break one elf” might be the hardest of goers I’ve witnessed in a WoW cinematic.
I went into this reveal expecting to check off half of my Midnight Doomer Bingo and quit the game for good, but I came away feeling pretty good.
If it’s on par with Shattrath and Auchindoun from alternate Draenor?
Along with: a handful of Naaru → to give it a sense of divine and awe, like Silvermoon has with its magics and powerful light, infused by the Sunwell? Honestly, then maybe perhaps.
That’s a compromise I could maybe somewhat reasonably accept, I suppose. Depending on the awe-factors, how well they do it, the size & scope – along with what can be used & utilised.
Whatever the new draenei capital will be I dont think it will be the Exodar. It was never meant to be that. It should have been Shatrath. So it would be something similar to Shatrath in AU Draenor, minus the demons
I’m going to scrap my post and just quote yours in full, because these are my exact feelings on the matter and you could’ve conceivably sued me for plagiarism.