The magic is gone

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I’ve loved this game since I started in BC, and I’ve hung on through it all because I just love the game, and keep hoping it will get better.

When Activision got their claws into Blizzard, that’s when things started going down hill. At first it wasn’t so bad, some things sucked, but wow was still my number one game that I loved, and always looked forward to playing.

As the years went on tho, things slowly got worse. Each expansion was less satisfying than the last. Activision seemed to be pushing the limits of how much money they could get, with as little investment as possible.

Still, I hung on because I always hoped it would get better. That they’d see if they just let the designers and developers do their thing, and follow their passion with the game, it would be epic and magical, and would naturally draw players in, and keep them here.

Since BFA launched though, it’s been hard to keep myself playing. I kept trying to look at the positive, and hope that maybe Activision would listen to players, and do something that would be epic… Then 8.3 happened

It’s not the single thing that made me cancel my sub, there’s a whole laundry list of things. But 8.3 showed me that they aren’t listening.

It showed me that they gave up on BFA, and do not care about player experience. They only care about “engagement”. Basically, they care if you log in, not if you enjoy the game, or have fun after you log in. Just that your computer is on, and logged into their game. Other than that, they don’t care

It showed me that Activision doesn’t want to take time to design content that is fun, but rather, they want content put out on deadlines regardless of how poorly thrown together it is.

8.3 just gave me a serious reality check about this company and game. I always tried to be positive that the overall game would get better, that “next patch” or “next expansion” they’ll get it together and actually listen… but I’ve realized they won’t.

As long as Activision’s greed has Blizzard in a stranglehold, this game will continue to slowly die.

You can’t rush art. You can’t put designers passion on a deadline. It just doesn’t work. The end result will never be something truly magical when it’s rushed

I’m not even mad at the game, or 8.3. I’m mostly sad. The game just isn’t fun. It’s not magical anymore.

It used to be a game I was happily addicted to, and now if I try to log in, I just sit there staring at my monitor, asking myself why I’m even playing this…

My favorite game lost its magic. It doesn’t have that sparkle anymore. That little spark that just made it better than all the others.

Like I said, I’m not even angry, I’m just disheartened, and sad. I would love nothing more than to have an epic wow experience again. To have a game that I look forward to playing like I used to, but it’s just not there anymore.

The magic is gone.

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The magic is gone from you, not the other way around.

It’s possible that maybe you have changed and you have outgrown WoW.

WoW has always been this way, you only remember it differently because it comforts you.

WoW has always been full of RNG and problems. That is the reality.

It’s not Blizzard’s job to fulfill the lives of it’s players nor is it their responsibility to manage their moods and life situations.

You’re actually making a topic where you say that you’re addicted to the game and that it’s Blizzard’s fault that you aren’t getting high off of it anymore. That’s your problem.

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Nope.

It has changed. Not everyone can speak to those changes but consider back in 2008 you had a level grind, picked up flight for a gold price, hopped into whatever content you felt like doing. Be it arena, battlegrounds, dungeons, raids, dailies, etc.

Retail today is a far cry from that product.

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If the premise of your complaint is “Activision is ruining Blizzard”, they’ve been together (and are the same company) for a decade now. There is no Blizzard.

You want an epic WoW experience? Delete your account and start over. Play without add-ons, don’t use WoWhead and make new friends. Part of the problem is there is no sense of mystery or danger for a long term player. We’ve faced all that, tempered our mettle while protecting Azeroth.

If you’re just running laps in town, maybe you should take a break. I’m talking 6-9 months.

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Can I get that get that stuff bro

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I don’t see how that fixes the grinding or rng event loot style loot…

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Trash comments like these make me want to stop playing the game more than anything wrong with the actual game. You even had to edit 3 times? Just to make sure that the OP knows you were personally insulted that the OP bothered to comment why they are unhappy with game.

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That’s the problem, every other game franchise has evolved, WoW will always focus on the fundamental problem with MMO’s.

Grind as a main feature is outdated. Get over it. It’s very clear you’re uncomfortable with any, ANY negative feedback on this game, you keep posting this same thing whenever someone does provide that.

You keep implying that people are emotionally scarred by this game in order for them to sleight it in even the smallest way. It’s weird.

Nobody asked that. You’re shoving a narrative to make people feel like the OP is crazy for providing feedback on a game.

Yet you here, are zealously defending it as if its just as important as you project to others.

PSA: IT’S OKAY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THIS GAME.

THE FORUMS ARE THE DESIGNATED PLACE FOR FEEDBACK. IF YOU ARE WHINING ABOUT FEEDBACK, YOU ARE THE ONE OUT OF PLACE.

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/facepalm

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You know alot of people like grinding right? Its what makes an MMO. “RNG event loot style loot”, you mean, “loot”? While I don’t necessarily think loot is broken, I also don’t push high end content, so it really doesn’t matter at all. Having deterministic loot acquisition is possible for different game modes. You do have options.

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There’s a reason MMO’s in general are not as popular anymore. They’re not evolving. Other games are entertainment > grind, this one is grind > entertainment.

We still have the same type of cutscenes from cata, where if something explodes, it’s just covered in smoke and the model is replaced.

Stop.

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I tooks it. :stuck_out_tongue:

My candle.

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I find magic doing older content IMO!

Maybe that is because of memories but that is something positive to hold onto. But the new content isn’t that interesting to me.

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I hate these responses more then anything on the forum.

No. YOU’RE the one that’s wrong. It’s the game that changed. Why does everyone try to complicate this. the game is vastly different then it was for the MAJORITY of it’s life. From BC to WoD, the game had a certain pacing and time commitment. Legion started to change that and BFA amplified that.

WoW HASN’T been this way. I used to be able to casually play with friends and still be very competitive. I used to have time to play at a high level AND do random stuff in the game. Like farm mounts. Like farm mogs. Like make gold. etc. etc. etc.

Now, even my ‘main’ toons I can barely keep relevant. I HAVE to play the one toon because RNG gods might give that one toon the BEST corruption piece. Time played is so important now if you want to keep progressing your toon. The RNG used to be wether the piece dropped or not. It wasn’t… will it drop AND have the right corruption AND have a socket or other bonus affect.

I realize you can never ‘beat’ wow… but you used to be able to actually get your BIS piece of gear… AND you know what? It was actually the best piece of gear you could get.

Maybe the game hasn’t changed for players like you, but it HAS changed for a lot of other people.

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Yes and no. All MMOs have some RNG in them, but WoW has gotten much worse over the years, without a doubt. It’s been a slow and gradual process into the mess we’re in now. Remember when the only RNG you had to worry about was whether or not the piece you wanted would drop? Or a tier token? The stats were always the same, you just had to wait on the item. Compare that to now.

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Been playing since BC and even I know the game has changed and NOT in a healthy way. the outright removal of achievements the dumbing down of the explorations achievements. and the editing and pruning achievements have not helped. Along with the removal of class abilities and talents making every class a face roll on the keyboard to play.

I am not even going into the removal of dailies, Tabards for dungeons, PVP gear vendors, the pve gear vendor . Now add in poor management, developers who mock the players and a company who will not even answer it’s own forum but makes you go to 2 others to get information is not a healthy game at all.
Also this woke culture the company has cultivated inside it has really had a affect on the game.

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The popularity of old MMORPGs shows that people haven’t changed. I am inclined to agree.

Runscape classic, WoW classic, L2 classic, City of Heroes returning. It feels like a revival of the good old days IMO.

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I agree… Can’t really bring myself to login anymore. There’s games that are far more fun and/or interesting than WoW these days. Bought Shadowlands but it’s my last xpack. Pretty tired of the WoW experience.

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I’ve come to the realisation that blizz just decided that they’re no longer making the game for the type of customer that helped build it in the first place. The new demographic they’ve decided to cater to is essentially you’re typical short attention span mobile phone gambling cow clicker mobile gamer. It’s honestly the only rational explanation that fits the profile now.

Le sigh.

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I agree that there are currently too many chores to keep up with- mundane, autopilot content that isn’t particularly enjoyable. It’s really detrimental to people with limited playtime or players who enjoy alts.

But I disagree that they don’t care about making fun content. Visions aren’t really my cup of tea but the concept of re-playable solo progression (finally!) is really solid. Mythic dungeons with increasing difficulty and random affixes to keep things fresh is strictly an improvement to older models in my opinion. I appreciate having PvP talents to more finely tune PvP without upheaving PvE balance and bringing them into the open world with war mode.

All they need to do is work on making the more grindy content… more optional than it is now. I’m sure people with ample time to play and who focus on a main appreciate the fact that they have a lot to do, but I’d like to just jump in, queue a few random BG’s, and jump out without feeling like I’m falling behind in 50 different facets of the game.

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