The M+ system is deeply flawed right now ( in depth )

Impassable on 3rd week. Try 4th and 5th week. While waiting to be invited, climb up on Raid, destroy Heroic Raid and start getting into Mythic Raid where Gilded Crests are abundant.

It’s doable. I know… your fingers are not performing when on Raid.

If you’re getting blasted in +9s, you are maybe killing heroic silken court, probably not queen or M Ulgarax.

The entire point of Mythic+ is its a way to gear your character and engage in challenging content without having to Raid or PVP. You can do all three if you want the largest advantages or you are very invested in a particular character, but saying go get the crests from raid just proves that the Mythic+ system needs reworking if we are forced to step outside of it to other endgame content just to progress it.

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broski i am the one that has timed 12+ , i am 5/8 mythic raid and im at the 0.1 % bracket. im not crying for my own sake. I am good in terms of progress , i have access to eveeerything. its not about me . Its about the health of the game

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Because people on throw away level 10 alts never lie about this stuff on the forums.

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You can’t get more “vault loots” without doing 10’s, since 619 gear is gained from piss easy delves atm

The solution isn’t to nerf delves btw, it’s to fix m+

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So, what is the fix?

Make crests drop from 7-9’s because atm nobody does any keys unless it’s bare minimum a 9. The grind to get these crests is pure misery if you do not have the schedule to do mythic raiding

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So to fix M+, M+ has to be PISS EASY like Delves?

Man, you’re beyond help if you think thats what i meant

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Gilded Crests at +8s, Mythic Track Loot from +9s. Portals for each +10 you can time and then KSH for timing all 10s. An extremely slight easing of the gearing system that will be a significant increase in the satisfaction of the player-base and an increase in the number of tanks and healers with the appropriate rating and gear for higher level keys.

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Never suggested by anyone ever.

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I’m not the biggest fan of myth track at level 9’s, but crests absolutely need to be dropped a key level or 2

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That’s what you meant. You want PISS EASY +7 or +8 to get you Gilded Crests like how Delves are PISS EASY to you giving 619 freebies.

I don’t think that fixes it, I think it just moves the problem.

Ok, how are you going to buff the other gearing options now that M+ is trending back towards being even more OP?

I’d say that the deep flaws with M+ begin with the massive class imbalance in the game.

And unless that is fixed… you’re just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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M+ is clearly soaring this expansion, they’re obviously re-arranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg.

Add back the bullions we had in s4 of dragonflight, only drops from doing raids, getting X amount of them lets you buy a piece of gear from a boss you’ve killed
It’d be a tuning thing for how much they cost, but thats on blizz.

Idk as much about delves, but i’d make the hero track map thing a guaranteed thing each week, but you can only get 1, and make the keys capped so you can’t get as much gear so quick.

Just my suggestions, at any rate. I know raid only players have been screwed for years lol

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Im not team buff everything make it all easy. Im team its a little OP right now, at least do Gilded Crests at +8. Only reason I suggest dropping mythic track loot to +9s is to avoid the +9s are a dead key argument so it gives them a meaningful purpose. I’m even fine with increasing portals to 11s or 12s along with KSH if thats what appeses the top 5% along with the 95%.

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That doesn’t actually promote raiding for gear, that promotes clearing normal once, then doing 1-2 LFRs/week for the bullion drop, then upgrading it with crests you grinded from M+.

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