The Jailer and Sargeras Lore

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So isn’t the Jailer just a copy of Sargeras, the guy who dropped the giant sword into Azeroth.

So I thought Sargeras glimpsed into the void , chaos etc. and thought he had to unify the universe, the pantheon be damned under one banner specifically the legion banner.

So the Jailer has to unite us under maw banner to fight a mysterious villain…

Isn’t this basically a very similar story line? What was the point of the Jailer or the shadowlands at all.

Also it seems all deity etc are just robots pumped full of soul anima?

Maybe someone can explain the lore better to me.

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Jailer is dead and Sargeras could be a player again so all is not lost.

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Is it dead dead, or did we just accidently hit his off switch and he can be powered up again at some point?

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Sargeras wasn’t trying to unify the universe. He was trying to stop the Void from destroying it.

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Was it the Void Lords the Jailer saw and was worried about?

Or something even BIGGER and BADDER?

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Well I didn’t say unify through peace, I guess unity can be destroying and enslaving everyone under the burning legion LOL

But isn’t the Jailer referring the the Void as well so essentially its the same character arc or similar enough?

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The Jailer is a copy-cat.

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Sargeras was never trying to unify anything. He just wanted to wipe out the planets so that the Void couldn’t create a Void Titan.

And the Jailer wasn’t talking about the Void at all.

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Ok so what was the Jailer referring to you think? I just got very similar vibes from both of them I guess.

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Zovaal mentioned that without all forces united, we couldn’t stand up to whatever is out there. It’s a seventh force we haven’t been introduced to yet. So we have no idea.

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We don’t know, but stay tuned until April 19th and maybe we’ll find out!

Probably just more light & void stuff.

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My brain is only comprehending the light Naru and Void entity being left as big bads unless they actually write some nuanced smaller stories. What other bads am I missing?

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I guess the key difference was Sargeras = burn everything to the ground, and Jailer = put everything under the flag of his cosmic force.

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The seventh comsic force we don’t know about yet.

It’s hinted at but never explained.

Also, to answer the other part of your question from earlier: The difference between Zovaal and Sargeras is that Sargeras never strayed from his goal. He only cared about wiping out all life. Zovaal went from trying to figure out how to fix things to being full of vengeance and wanting to rule. That was his downfall.

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Seems like no one is ever really dead in WoW.

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Easy: a previous team created Sargeras.

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What in the game hinted at a seventh cosmic force ? I don’t recall reading any quest dialogue hinting at this but I could of glanced over it.

I don’t even know how that would fit into a realm that exists as it does now. If anything next expansion should be the Infinite Dragon flight time traveling villains mucking around with stuff.

I don’t think we ready for another cosmic level event.

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Firim’s writings found in Tazavesh:

As mentioned before, Part1 , Part 2 , and Part 3 of the Expedition Report A37J are written by Al’firim, and they describe their growing understanding of the six or seven primal forces - and how it’s the seventh force that holds together the other six

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Bruh… please no.

Can you guys NOT?

I can imagine Danuser being proud and digging Zovaal up and sticking him in our faces. Please no.

:+1:

The “Blizzard = proud” meme doesn’t apply to the game design team but I would say that it definitely applies to the lore team. Danuser had to one-up his mentor/superior Metzen, to, in his mind, come out of his shadow. But he didn’t have that creative spark so he just copied his homework but made it worse.

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jailer worked with the legion