The Imbalance has reached a boiling point

10/28/2018 12:43 PMPosted by Oozo
10/28/2018 12:19 PMPosted by Tribbie
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A solo healer will get trained into the ground fast, as soon as they are out of defensive it's gg


The horde I fight against often times immediately switch to the DPS getting on their healers and proceed to snare and CC them.

And ? I do the same thing on my hunter , dk, warrior , sometimes when i play spriest . Its because ik what dps role is supposed to do .
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The horde I fight against often times immediately switch to the DPS getting on their healers and proceed to snare and CC them.

And ? I do the same thing on my hunter , dk, warrior , sometimes when i play spriest . Its because ik what dps role is supposed to do .


Yes, DPS are supposed to do that but often don't on alliance. One of my friends that plays healer can attest to that.

In fact, I find that on alliance that there is often a "not my problem" attitude where people will not help those in need.
10/28/2018 12:47 PMPosted by Oozo
10/28/2018 12:22 PMPosted by Kitanana
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Not the one with an ego . Wait up a min my dude . Soooo let me get this straight, you run up in here like you own da place . Start commin mad at jugaa and then flaunting your clout like it means something with your YT . Acting like we all suppose to know who you are.

Anddddd then you have the AUDACITY to even come up in here and dismiss data . Then go right back to talking about not having a ego realllllyyyyyyy .

Like excuseeeeee meeeee .


You didn't even come close to answering the question.


Oh dont act like you tried to answer anything you came up in here with a major clout show all mad at jugaa and dismissing data dont try to play that fool . you claimed you didnt have an ego . I corrected you on that statement.
10/28/2018 01:00 PMPosted by Oozo
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And ? I do the same thing on my hunter , dk, warrior , sometimes when i play spriest . Its because ik what dps role is supposed to do .


Yes, DPS are supposed to do that but often don't on alliance. One of my friends that plays healer can attest to that.

In fact, I find that on alliance that there is often a "not my problem" attitude where people will not help those in need.
It does happen for sure. Itā€™s still not as bad as the OP claims, ymmv.
10/28/2018 12:47 PMPosted by Inemia
10/28/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Kitanana
#QueenKit


where do i get one?


You dont there is only 1 me in this world
10/28/2018 12:23 PMPosted by Tribbie
10/28/2018 10:23 AMPosted by Forums
Doesn't she play in premade groups?

Ah the cardinal pvp sin of running in groups of 2-5 even though Bliz is ok with it and offers tools that encourage it :P


Forums can't stand the idea of people enjoying the company of others in this video game.
10/28/2018 09:55 AMPosted by Hellpop
10/28/2018 03:27 AMPosted by DaƬ
Sadly, the only fix I can see is to allow cross faction rated PvP play.

As long as the "top" PvPer's congregate to one faction, (so that they have more people to play with and thus can play more), the rest of the competitiveish PvP population will follow.

There is 0 incentive to spread the community across factions, and many incentives to have it all be one faction. Which has these negative side effects.

It will only get worse.
yeah good post. you can already go against your own faction in rated play. there is little to no incentives to join a less populated or losing faction, so the imbalance will only worsen from here on out.


Yeah, I don't think cross faction randoms are going to fix the problem. If anything, they will just help mask it, as merc mode has done.
10/28/2018 01:08 PMPosted by Kitanana
You dont there is only 1 me in this world


what if i take yours?

10/28/2018 01:14 PMPosted by Muffindiving
Forums can't stand the idea of people enjoying the company of others in this video game.


i think its more in line with can't stand the fact that premaders want to force grouping on everyone whether they like it or not.
10/28/2018 10:56 AMPosted by Jugajr
10/28/2018 10:53 AMPosted by Hellpop
...unless you're trying to make a point, there is no reason bother. and horde are mainly happy with their lot.
Arenā€™t you making a point that Horde win more often and thereā€™s some crazy imbalance?


If anything, you would be seeing far fewer horde posting their reflex data. After all, it seems the majority of them, particularly on this forum, would prefer things stay just the way they are. And if their data does show they have a larger than reasonable win rate, then Blizzard might do something, which they don't want to have happen.
10/28/2018 01:23 PMPosted by Miadra
10/28/2018 10:56 AMPosted by Jugajr
...Arenā€™t you making a point that Horde win more often and thereā€™s some crazy imbalance?


If anything, you would be seeing far fewer horde posting their reflex data. After all, it seems the majority of them, particularly on this forum, would prefer things stay just the way they are. And if their data does show they have a larger than reasonable win rate, then Blizzard might do something, which they don't want to have happen.
Blizzard has all the data. They donā€™t need to see anyoneā€™s reflex lol
...ok, i will let someone else explain it to you why there is no horde side data. i tried, i guess if you can't even comprehend the concept of alts there is probably no hope.

you main horde, get data from that.
Then why are you in other threads telling people they should collect data? Why donā€™t you do it.


Why are you always telling people to post data? He is allowed to do it in any thread he chooses. It is not up to you to decide where or when he does it.
10/28/2018 01:14 PMPosted by Muffindiving
10/28/2018 12:23 PMPosted by Tribbie
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Ah the cardinal pvp sin of running in groups of 2-5 even though Bliz is ok with it and offers tools that encourage it :P

Forums can't stand the idea of people enjoying the company of others in this video game.

Random bgs are supposed to be casual fun. It's unfortunate when some players stack their teams and bgs end up being very imbalanced.
10/28/2018 11:49 AMPosted by Tzuyu
I don't feel like I lose an exorbitant amount so I dont run an addon to keep tabs on it...is what I think he is saying.

Rather than a horde show reflex which can be discounted by they don't actually solo queue play at the right time iz a hEaLEr lolololol, should look at the reflex of all these I lose all day every day ppl.


No, Jugaa runs reflex, she has commented on doing so many times.
10/28/2018 01:36 PMPosted by Miadra
...Then why are you in other threads telling people they should collect data? Why donā€™t you do it.


Why are you always telling people to post data? He is allowed to do it in any thread he chooses. It is not up to you to decide where or when he does it.
Because it backs up what you are claiming at least.
10/28/2018 01:25 PMPosted by Jugajr
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If anything, you would be seeing far fewer horde posting their reflex data. After all, it seems the majority of them, particularly on this forum, would prefer things stay just the way they are. And if their data does show they have a larger than reasonable win rate, then Blizzard might do something, which they don't want to have happen.
Blizzard has all the data. They donā€™t need to see anyoneā€™s reflex lol


Blizzard seeing the data and being aware of the problem is a very different animal than EVERYONE seeing the data, getting fed up with Blizzard not doing anything about it and start leaving the game.

If you don't believe that, just look at the surveys they are now sending out to players who have quit. They were totally aware of what the problems were, as can be evidenced by the question asked, what was making people unhappy, they have been aware undoubtedly since beta, and yet, they were able to keep it all under control as long as they could pull off the myth that everyone was loving on BfA. Then boom, someone sneaks out the number of subs that have dropped, Blizzard emphatically denies it, all the while deleting posts referring to it, but then suddenly these surveys are going out.

There is every reason in the world for Blizzard to keep things like win rates sliding further and further toward horde under their hats, and even more reason to pretend they were unaware of them when the poop finally hits the fan.
Yea but any data that gets shown is automatically dismissed for reasons here.
10/28/2018 01:46 PMPosted by Miadra
If you don't believe that, just look at the surveys they are now sending out to players who have quit. They were totally aware of what the problems were, as can be evidenced by the question asked, what was making people unhappy, they have been aware undoubtedly since beta, and yet, they were able to keep it all under control as long as they could pull off the myth that everyone was loving on BfA. Then boom, someone sneaks out the number of subs that have dropped, Blizzard emphatically denies it, all the while deleting posts referring to it, but then suddenly these surveys are going out.

Wait... They're only sending surveys to players who have quit?!

They're not looking for feedback from the people who are still playing?

Where's my survey?!

https://imgur.com/a/uynBCZc
Plus, is it such a bad thing they want feedback? I mean damned if they do damned if they donā€™t has never been truer than now.
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10/28/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Jugajr
Yea but any data that gets shown is automatically dismissed for reasons here.


Sorry Jugaa and anyone else. Your data doesn't make the losing streaks I've had on alliance a figment of my imagination. That is poor logic.
10/28/2018 01:59 PMPosted by Oozo
10/28/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Jugajr
Yea but any data that gets shown is automatically dismissed for reasons here.


Sorry Jugaa and anyone else. Your data doesn't make the losing streaks I've had on alliance a figment of my imagination. That is poor logic.


it does, i have 10 and even 13 lose streaks in my reflex, but out of 1200+ matches recorded by it that is nothing, i still have more wins than losses overall. its like flipping a coin, even though you have a 50/50 chance to get tails, out of 100 flips you are going to get some streaks of one side or the other.

the fact that you played on a losing streak is unfortunate, but if you track your wins/losses you'd see that its not out of the ordinary.