The Illusion that "Legion was a good Expansion"

MOP was the best expansion since Cataclysm

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My guess is that people were so used to WoD that Legion felt like BC or Wrath by comparison

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I also didn’t like legion. But legion was still 10x better than BFA and had some actual content that I found enjoyable. I liked mage towers, I liked m+ before they designed dungeons specifically around m+, I liked having some class quests again, I liked the class flying mounts, I liked surumar, artifact weapons (while still bad) were better than azerite, and classes felt better than BFA but that isn’t saying much.

The highlight of Legion for me definitely was doing the mage tower on my havoc DH with norm/heroic nighthold gear and grinding it out for 2 and a half days while trying to figure out the mechanics since there were no guides.

Nobody said it was perfect, as you yourself pointed out. It was just a really fun expansion, though.

The only thing I really hated honestly was level scaling and stat templates in PvP.

Legion was far from perfect. But it had far far less faults than BFA and WOD has.

if you want a “Perfect expansion” the runner ups would be:

5.2 + MOP
Wrath
BC

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Easily agree with this.

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People often overlook how good 5.2 was, as it gave players a choice in his to gain rep.

The current developers would do well to go back to player choice, it means a lot in an RPG.

I love Legion. Far better story, and it’s a lot more fun than BFA. Well, it was more fun until they removed a ton of stuff that no longer has any use.

Could one just say that about Vanilla and TBC?

Like there was an illusion that Vanilla and TBC were good because people were playing it for the first time then. Does that make Vanilla and TBC bad games then?

Legion and BFA are my first 2 expansions and WOW has been like the best game I ever played.

I liked legion (like I said above) and thought it was amazing!

People tend to enjoy things the first time then get tired of it over time.

An illusion! What are you hiding?

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No new weapons? Thats ridiculous. We had densely worked artifacts.

Superbly specious argument there and mostly subjective interpretations.

Thanks for playing.

The artifact skins were pretty badass for some classes. But mostly I could run m+ non stop until they changed em like 6 months in for rewards etc. The dungeons were also 10x more enjoyable than those in BFA in my opinion.

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But… your title…

Does not compute. brain explodes

How is it hard to understand? Compared to BfA and WoD, Legion was outstanding.

Legion was by far the most fun ive had in this game. Loved it.

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objectively, legion had more stories, more fantasy, better writing, somehow better overall class design, a more engaging/varied landscape, a cohesive, overarching plot…

bfa just seems like legion-lite to me. a lot of what i stated was stripped away or cut out.

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Class design sucked in Legion too. The things that saved Legion though were the artifact skins. It gave people some purpose in the monotonous grind. That and the Legion artifact was FAR superior to the BFA artifact. A deterministic system of power acquisition, while not ideal for class design was superior to main stat farming BFA represents.

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Class Fantasy was a product of WOD

Return of Garrison Missions tables( other than the overkill on some missions, were fine)

No no weapons- Good, i hate waiting for rng gods to give me 2 of the same daggers, was a nice break

The reliance of gear and “gimmicks” - Ya but we still had tier

AP was a grind - If we didn’t have AP, you’d be saying rep

Introduction of lvl scaling - Ya but i could quest with my friends and didn’t feel like i was holding them back if they were few levels ahead, plus dungeon running together.

All expansions had time gating, people just didn’t call it that then, remember opening up the IQD in TBC? You literally had to do dailies for days to open it, and if a population was small, months. It was in reality a time gate.

Things I liked about Legion

Mage Tower
Raids
Dungeons
Artifact Appearances
The Story
Class Halls
Class mounts
The Zones
Leveling alts didn’t feel like a chore. I had leveled 15x in Legion to max, did it 3x so far in BFA

If there is one thing I hate about BFA, is that the dungeons were totally designed to push their dead MDI tournament. And if you watched it, it was evident, as was the constant Warrior, Druid, Monk, 2x Rogue comps

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Lol no honey.

You implied in your title that Legion being a “good” expansion is an illusion yet you agree with someone who said it was a good expansion.

What you said has nooooooooothing to do with that. Cute though.

Many faults in your mind.

I loved artifacts, my class felt great, I didn’t see gimmicks in my class, artifacts made classes feel great, button bloat was real before legion.

Also, legendaries were a fun system that allowed me to overpower my character for certain activities based on my load out.

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