See, this is one opinion. I held the opposite.
I think it started off strong with Suramar and the Nighthold, and then started to trail off after 7.1. The broken shore was weak and boring. Argus was a little better, but the color scheme of brown and green and black was wearing away at me…
Legion was a solid xpac. Rough go but nighthold and tomb of sargeras were great raids.
Antorus brought the content drought but with the introduction of mythic + it kept the game moving.
Mage tower challenges were awesome and Suramar was a very well done zone / quest line. Hated it initially cause it didnt seem to end but it was quality.
Even though the game was linear it did not feel like it.
BFA is just a single track rail line that just keeps going and it feels like that.
Oh last of tier sets. Tier sets combined with proper legendaries at no time in the history of this game did classes play like that or that strong.
Legion was a great expansion.
Something that actually happened isn’t an opinion. You may not consider them faults however, and some of them I don’t consider faults either. But stating that the op’s list is an opinion just isn’t true.
So you are saying I dislike legion now?
How did I twist your words? You said the op was an opinion. You also said that they can’t be considered faults by everyone. They can’t.
I did. However, it seems like you can’t make a counter post without insulting someone several times. No need to be this toxic over a game. Have a Snickers.
Overall, I found Legion to be fun. I liked the different areas, Loved the design of the main city. Loved the stories, especially Suramar. I found myself gaining the reputation without having to farm reputation. It just came as a natural consequence of completing the content. I liked the class halls. Some of the things you didn’t like I see more as core game changes and not specific to the content of the expansion. Some of the things I didn’t like were having weapons tied to specializations (for example, I want my Beastmaster Hunter to use a bow not a gun, and Marksmanship to use a gun).
In BfA I’m having trouble motivating myself to go complete the content on the other factions islands. I must force myself to do it soon though so I can make progress. Currently I’m not getting armor upgrades from anything. It is always lower level things.
One thing I wish they would do in BfA is let the reputation mission board things be account bound. I would love to pass reputation along to my alts.
The other thing I currently don’t like in BfA is that you have mounts, pets, toys, etc. on timed activities. If I could go on Warfronts and work with groups to get mounts and such, I would do that but now, you go in and work rapidly to kill the end boss and then the instance goes away. You can’t go back and kill the pop ups to get a small chance at the drop. That removes my desire to go into Warfronts as the armor is always now at a lower level than what I have equipped.
I’m more likely to go into the patrol version where at least I occasionally get a toy, pet, or mount.
It is not a belief it is an opinion. Therefore your basic understanding is off. Also, given its faults Legion was a decent expansion.
Being an okay expansion sandwiched between two dumpster fires will have that effect on people.
During my time with legion, it was a decent expansion until I attempted to take it even remotely seriously. I ended up with aggramar’s and pre-buffed prydaz on my frost dk and found out it’d literally be easier to reroll off of my main since wrath rather than attempt to get a 3rd legendary. Also, the months of timegating in Suramar and then the Breaching the Tomb debacle killed any desire I had to play WoW until early this year.
I never got to see the “good” part of legion because the first half was so bad it drove me away.
I never liked Legion. Truth be told, I think Blizzard fell off a cliff with WoW post-MoP and every expac since then has been an exercise in giving players less.
Legion at least had the cool weapons and class halls that were fun at first.
Shades of grey and all of that. These forums take a binary love/hate good/bad approach far more often than is called for.
It was a high-power fantasy expansion like none other and I loved that. The scope and scale of the threats we faced down were like no other before them. The transmog sets available throughout Legion are some of the best in the game. The sheer amount of content available at any given time was staggering. The Mage Tower was awesome. The raids were awesome. M+ was awesome (moreso than BFA imo). Class campaigns were awesome. Scythe of the Unmaker and Taeshelach are awesome. Legendaries (post-vendor) were pretty fun.
I liked it a lot. I know many people don’t enjoy playing demigods but I sure do.
It is super hard to respect any opinion you might post when you resort to belittling and insulting those you disagree with. I understand such a reaction when someone is terribly rude, but all I see is someone who challenged your opinion. You are the one who blew up.
Perhaps you should go further back than first grade and apply some of what most of us learned in kindergarten: Be nice.
Because they were still having fun.
While the over-reliance on gear to solve problems was an issue by itself, they did solve the issues. When the gear solving those issues was taken away in BfA, THAT is when things went off the rails.
Also, the class campaigns with all the unique quests were actually a fun addition.
As was the Mage Tower.
Suramar was one of the best story-driven zones EVER introduced to WoW.
Several of the tier sets were among WoW’s best.
And a few other nice things.
Legion had issues, but people were still having fun in it.
Some of those “faults” you listed, people like, its all a matter of opinion.
I think it comes down to so many people hating wod and bfa. When things are bad something that’s just okay feels a lot better.
Legion seemed good after WoD, and it did push some content that was more RPG oriented but class design was terrible. Overall I took a long break but played at the end. I enjoyed it, not at first but especially after it started raining AP.
I think it’s like this:
Agreed
Disagree
Don’t care
I liked the Artefact weapons.
I liked them. WoD overused them.
Grinding has been part of the game since day 1.
I liked.
I liked legendaries. Didn’t like randomisation and how they were obtained.
Rep time gating been around forever.
I liked WQ -> dailies with an additional reward at the end.
Liked
Your opinions are not fact and I guarantee you everything you don’t like someone else will.
They were bonuses. Specs could and did perform without them. It impacted people playing at the top of the game. Other content was absolutely just fine.
Actually, no. Azerite is a steaming pile of feces. It took the AP system, combined it with horrid traits, and rolled it out as a grind.
You had natural progression in that you would get rewards for doing more content, and as you went along you filled out more of your Legendary book, giving you more options as you went.
Not particularly. It’s more crap stacked into Azerite to appease people. It encourages participation in content some people can’t, don’t or won’t do for things that cannot replace what we lost going into BfA.
I didn’t do irrelevant content on any of my 9 alts in Legion, and across the board their Legendary reception rates were pretty close. More effort, more reward.
Interesting that the OP is posting this on a character that does not appear to have ever played the game.
I played a blood dk near the end of legion when I started the expansion and I thought the game felt really good to play and the stories were engaging. None of the changes they made to the game bothered me I actually have grown to like most of the changes they have made. Plus now we have Classic so people can get their fix on the old style by playing that, no reason to make retail the same.
Yep. And I guess this only works to its advantage in the long run.
I didn’t understand it either. The Classes were bad, AP Weapons were bad, story was bad.
At least Warlords had decent game play even if the story was bad.