The Horde will never change without punishments

A fight between nathanos and Tyrande should of happen. Not this silly stuff she can beat him easy. He had 2.7 million health to her 1.7 million health. That a pretty safe margin to survive a hit from her one-shot ability. If she could get it in. If both had a no holds back. Tyrande should have an early advantage. If she could not end quickly. The sure bet he would have won. An epic fight.

Is this a joke? Tyrande is the most powerful leader in the Lore… so please stop talking about health Pts in the game :joy:

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No joke. She may be the most powerful. How many have fallen that also been said about. Health makes a big difference on survivability. Just because she supposed to be the big bad. Does not mean she can not be beaten.

FYI: If look i said if it played out to long.

Nathanos it’s only a ranger … Haha

Except the Zandalari weren’t concerned with the Alliance at all? Rasta didn’t want to get involved in the war. If being sort of friendly to an enemy nation of yours is a declaration of war, then I suppose America should just nuke every country friendly with every one of their enemies, which would be s t u p i d. Should the Horde invade Dalaran because it’s ostensibly neutral with some Alliance living there? Should they have taken over Val’sharah because some Alliance live amongst the neutral druids? Would the Horde be justified invading every single land remotely friendly to the Alliance?

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You mean like allowing Teldrassil to be burned to the ground and losing Ashenvale/Darkshore did to the Alliance?

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You do realize we lost a city and a zone too, yes? It wasn’t one-sided loss. Undead lives matter as much as Night Elf lives.

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Zandalar Neutral, good joke.

Zandalar was already Hostile to the Alliance long before.

We simply attack an enemy that supported another before they formally joined against us.

Fan boy. You might want to actually read up. That ranger class you dismissing is not a ordinary hunter type. Second he has become enhanced by various rital. So that only a ranger has a chance. If you so found of lore. She was wounded by orc archers.

wasn’t a faction leader, the child right beside him was the faction leader of the alliance in classic and remained so until his father was freed and the crown fell back onto varian

if we’re counting literally everyone then the list gets substantially bigger

They were the Horde’s enemy too, in case you forgot. They hated everyone and resolved to keep to themselves. Talanji went against their leader’s wishes and brought the Horde to try and help the inner turmoil going on, ending in a huge old god conspiracy being uncovered. They had no interest in the Alliance whatsoever.

Leadership fell on why Anduin was a Child,King only of name

ho, according to the Alliance, you must remain still and wait for the Zandalari Fleet to be part of the Horde.
Do not be ridiculous.

Don’t you want me to cut my neck myself too?

I’m not entirely sure you’re serious here. What specific rituals are you referring to that pumped Nat up to the point where he could go toe to the toe with the literal avatar of a God’s wrath and walk away? What actual God pumped power into Nathanos?

And leave the Val’kyr out of this please; we mortals blow through Val’kyr on the way to Odyn so fast that they are barely a speedbump.

Nat & the Girls™ got so much Plot Armor of the Devs that a nuclear warhead could have dropped on that beach and two of the three would have walked away.

Malfurion canonically would have pulled the wings off the Val’kyr like pulling wings off a fly while Tyrande was reducing Nathanos to a pile of smouldering ash in the sand. A God-enhanced Tyrande and one of the most canonically powerful mortals on Azeroth against Nat and two Val’kyr? BS on the Beach was god-awful story telling with absolutely no verisimilitude whatsoever.

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So it’s okay to make violent assumptions and preemptively attack people you’re suspicious of despite having no facts? Guess it’s justified to hurry up and genocide the Ankoan now before they inevitably join the Alliance and attack us.

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Considering you’ve completely misunderstood my post in its entirety, I’m pretty sure I’m not the idiot here.

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We have actually only lost one faction leader over the course of the entire game. Racial leaders are different, and yes, it does even it out a bit. But it isnt the same as your high king turning traitor or being killed off every other expansion. Varian is the only faction leader the alliance has lost. yes, he was out of action at the start with the whole gladiator/lo’gash thing but he never turned against his faction, he was tricked and split in half, and eventually found his way back to loyally leading the alliance. And it wasnt until the start of legion that we lost him.

And as for Magni, we kinda didnt lose him either since he came back to us in Legion, and heck, Muradin, who died in Warcraft 3, even ended up coming back somehow to help us fight the Lich King in WotLK. The only sort of racial leader that turned against us was Staghelm. And he wasnt even a racial leader, Tyrande was. he was just a random boss level night elf for the longest time.

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I am being dead serious. Besides those two the champion was there also. Who if paid any attention to lore. It’s supposed to be a powerful character in his own right.

Now for the ritual. The first one was when he was raised again. This happens if I recall right in cata. Then Sylvanas used a portion of a Val’kyr power to enhance him again. The third time in the comic he was enhanced by the dagger. Besides all that in any world even those most powerful can be beaten. Even the old gods have once been killed.

Never said he could beat her. If the fight had gone on for a while he has a chance to beat her. I know grammar bad. Chance not close to the word winning.

Ho you meant Let the horde exterminate them.

Attacking them if you could, committing genecide against them is another issue.

The Alliance has not committed Genocide at the moment Regicide Only

Anyway there is supposed to be a Ceasefire in Nazjatar.

Staying the same it is right now being half of the faction Blood Elfs, thats way worst.