The Horde suddenly doesn't recognize Khadgar?

I’m upset.

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Khadgar is like that English lit professor all the women are a little too into. And then you see the dude in a T-shirt before he put the button down and tweed jacket on and ya go;

Okay NOW I get it

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Toddy says the same thing. I’m assuming it is not obvious it’s Khadgar when he portals in violently.

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I’d also point out his portal was spitting fire! It means Khadgar was probably fighting a dragon as he ported in, so yeah. I would be surprised too.

I mean, yeah, of course we should burn his loved ones in front of him. But that’s also what the Horde does when we find random strangers anywhere.

Someone just showing up at a Horde city?! I’m guessing we’re supposed to make his race go extinct, but honestly I don’t even see it in the “Horde Response Manual” anywhere.

HALP! ALYNSA GUIDE ME!

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I think she was extremely disappointed she didn’t get to “arrest” him.

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Yep. Dude hasn’t been active for five years, either. And given the Dragonflight has a focus on “fresh adventure,” it makes sense that the new characters - and new players - don’t necessarily have any idea who this guy is.

So? An invasion is an invasion.

Its pretty simple Horde gets invaded when there is war already happening.
The Horde doesn’t get invaded out of nowhere. Its just disinformation that Blizzard makes characters say to somehow make it seem the Horde gets invaded for simply being there, or the goblin that said the Horde is hated by the Alliance even though did nothing wrong.
And etc and etc.

Its just not true.
These are false equivalencies that leads us down the same roads as BFA where the writers thought the Alliance needed a reason to hate or want to have a war with the Horde.

The first Undercity invasion probably felt like it was coming out of nowhere. It was triggered by the Wrathgate attack, which was happening on a different continent. There wasn’t open fighting between the Alliance and the Horde at the time.

Arguably, the Dazar’Alor invasion could have been a surprise as well, since Zandalar was technically neutral territory at the time.

Anyway, if the portal’s spitting fire (which I didn’t notice), that might be enough of an explanation.

Yeah, it happens.

The Scourge invaded in Wrath.
Kul Tirans tried to invade what, Vanilla/Cataclysm before they rejoined the Alliance because Daelin broke the peace on his own? Landing in Durotar a few times.
Elementals attacked in Cataclysm. I think the Twilight cultists have forces around at some point in disguise.
The Legion were pounding at the gates in Legion. They also had hidden demons and homonculi in the city.
And then the Scourge invaded again for Shadowlands, along with Jailer forces kidnapping leaders.

Even if we discount Alliance actions, wild stuff goes down. People get invaded a lot.

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How could it? Both Horde and Alliance were invading the city because the attack at wrathgate.

Yeah arguable but honestly with world quests of Zanadalari invading Kultiras before the raid it murky.
Anyway my problem is that we are not being consistent with what is happened before and so far that his been a recipe for disaster.

I am pretty sure she’s flirting with him, this needs context.

You don’t say “somebody arrest this handsome wizard” when you don’t know somebody.

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I really think people are taking a humorous comment made to express surprise too seriously.

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He doesn’t come out of the portal normally, if you pay attention. He’s forcibly blasted out of the portal in a gout of fire, he doesn’t just step out. It’s the reaction to that, not him, in the few seconds of confusion that has the calls of being under attack.

As for calling him handsome, the dwarf does so too, which isn’t exactly out of left field, not sure why people are confused about that. Khadgar is implied to be very good looking, not even ‘for his age’.

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Are you saying everyone, right down to the cockroach seller, would know about the Wrathgate thing and exactly when it was supposed to happen? I don’t see any reason to assume that.

In what way?

In my defense, the zeppelin tower where he appears for Horde was so crowded with player characters that I couldn’t really see the portal.

I am saying that the Horde does not have a history of being invaded in peace times that their first reaction to seeing a human is OMG ALERT INVASION. THE ALLIANCE IS INVADING!!! Even the cockroach seller would know if there is already a war that is happening and if they see Alliance maybe then its more plausible that they are getting invaded.

In the way that the game blatantly lies to the viewer.
I will use my example of the new low level area where a goblin is telling us how the Horde is discriminated against and how the Alliance is out to get them. That’s just not reality and we have three expansions demonstrating that it isn’t true.

Characters aren’t allowed a PoV, of course.

People don’t know how to disregard meta knowledge.

She actually doesn’t call him handsome.

At least not while calling for his arrest. Whiskers has a pretty normal reaction. Which makes the Reliquary lady’s reaction hilarious.

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The Horde character does.

It’s apparently not just “seeing a human,” though—it’s seeing a human appear out of a fiery portal.

First, maybe what you see is the sanitized version the Alliance tells themselves so they can sleep at night. :wink:

Second, I don’t really see what this has to do with whether a high-ranking Reliquary character would know (or at least know of) Khadgar.