So long as the writers keep depending on the same tropes and story points when writing the Horde. It was cool in Warcraft 3 because it was a genuine new direction for the Horde. Thrall reflected on the actions of the Horde(and their leaders) and decided to change it.
The problem is, Thrall succeeded in creating this Horde with a new path. Or at least that’s what we are supposed to believe. But sprinkled throughout WoW are cases of the Horde doing terrible things that go against this. But it’s always constantly living up to the meme of “The orc cries out in pain as he strikes you.” and the writers love to put the Horde in the same story line they’ve been telling about them since Warcraft 3. Hitting the same or very similar story beats.
Blizzard needs to decide if the Horde really is a rabid wolf or if they are redeemable. If the latter, then the style of conflict with the Alliance and within itself needs to change. If it’s the former, then no more redemption arcs. Let the rabid wolf not have a regret about who it bites. Because it whimpering in front of the hunter that is about to kill it and it pulling his heart strings enough he decides to let it go is something that’s been done a little too many times. There’s only so many times someone can say “My bad. I’ll do better” and continue doing the same thing before you start to have to believe “He’s either not sorry, not capable of doing better, or both.”
You don’t really have to have a binary alignment for what I’m saying to make sense. Just if we actually can be redeemed lets not keep retreading on if we can be redeemed or not. If we can’t, we should also stop retreading.
Rip half the community so you can have more “fun”? Half the player base likes being the wolf. I rather you join the Alliance so you can live your white knight fantasy there. Or we had the option to join a faction that doesnt care if it bites.
Well like I have been told, what you want isn’t part of lore so you cant have it. Sorry if you don’t like it, the player Horde was never intended to be evil.
I fully expect this council idea to turn into a political battle situation with Lor’themar, Gallywix, and maybe Thalyssra and Talanji on one side pushing for war, greed, power, etc and the rest on the other side pushing for peace and daisies.
That was their cover story - from day one it was pretty obvious for at least a good number of them, that notion was total BS.
Thing is, they would have been a whole lot more interesting and dynamic if they did focus on that angle. The Forsaken as victims, as a matter of tragedy. We already have a perfectly serviceable, balls to the wall evil undead faction in this little thing called the Scourge. Making the Forsaken that, but like… no, just mostly that was narratively redundant and a waste of something that could have been far more unique and interesting.
Instead, they just threw up their hands, said “screw it”, and killed off any portion of the Forsaken who might have had a semblance of redeemable humanity offstage in a book, all to upgrade their villain bat to “nuclear” while beating Sylvanas and the rest of her race with it.
I’d like to think those actually decent Forsaken murdered off stage were met in the afterlife by Cairne who greeted them with full commiserations.
There are a lot of pretty evil forsaken npcs you encounter. But they as a race are not supposed to be evil. They definitely do shady stuff. But you can also find them as part of the Argents or being noble and good. Such as Faol. And the ones in the cinematic seemed to turn against Sylvanas pretty quick after she said “The Horde is nothing!”
We arent good either we make morally questionable decisions for our survival without batting an eye.
Sure we arent mustache swirling evil but we both mow down anything that stands in our way. Heck our catch line as Blood Elf is “Death to all who oppose us.”
And personally I rather stay true to our original moral but if I have to switch to being evil because thats what everyone calls us Id rather be evil then be an Alliance bootlicker.
