…looks down at steak on my plate…oh…oh my…was that what those were?
That’s rich coming from the faction that has given us more villains than iron man can create.
Yet the alliance ends up bringing the BL here somehow time and time again.
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the horde are nice now led by baine and thrall and lor themar. they are good guys
they are buddies with anduin and jaina
Imagine being Horde, enabling Sylvanus and then thinking you deserve a welcoming good time in the Shadowlands that she’s ripping apart.
There’s no such thing as Good Horde.
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Sadly they are also delicious apparently…
Elected or not is irrelevant. If the president you voted from does something bad you are to blame?
Enlighten me what other corrupt and world ending apettites they supported.
What’s hilarious is that you say Night Elves and no trace of mention of the Nightborne. If blaming people that did nothing but fight against the chaos caused by the ones kicked was, in my opinion, reaching, ignoring the magical branch that always existed and is now in the Horde sounds like bias.
Saying the Night Elves welcomed 3 Highborne with welcoming arms as a way to say how the entire population of the Night Elves is to blame confirms it.
If you’re blaming people for things they didn’t do, at least don’t ignore that you descend from those that do not belong to the Night Elves. These Elves, when exiled, called themselves HIGH ELVES. Automatically, who caused the chaos are the HIGH ELVES, because you’d not expect a name change to release you from guilt.
But we’ll have to agree to disagree, I really see some bias (With all the respect you deserve). Go tell someone that fought against Hitler how he is to blame for what he did and see what happens.
As for this, there was a Burning Legion. No Night Elves - No Highborne - No Blood Elves, by the way.
And no Night Elves, no Illidan, thus Sargeras corrupting the Pantheon - No Azeroth.
Uhhhhhh Alliance aren’t much better. I believe the only “good” races are the Tauren and the Nigh elves. Everyone else is definitely a plague. Though that’s just art imitating life.
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Highborne descendants of High Elves never existed. High Elves descended from the Highborne, not the other way around.
To be fair, even the Winter queen purposefully ignores Bwonsamdi.
She makes it pretty clear that the matters of trolls and their loa are of no concern to her and only calls the wild hunt when Mueh’zala attacks the night fae.
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To me, it’s not the horde part bothers me. It’s the part that they happily burned down Teldrassil and yet, they’re trying to save Ardenweald?
LULZ.
One just burns…the other has the possibility at destroying all life as we know it if it falls
While I personally am in full support of burning that silly tree (the act of which is very ironic as well), only those that were with Sylv knew anything about what was happening… And they only knew what was happening when it happened.
I’d say, very little of the Horde supported and even less were happy about the burning of the tree.
Soldiers following orders is all it really was.
There is no Horde or Alliance focus in Shadowlands. Other than them knowing what happened on Azeroth. They just don’t care about that squabble. They just want their anima restored.
Which is why I want to play one of their races. I’m tired of factionalism.
People attempt to use the “just soldiers following orders” excuse all the time. It almost never works well, unless they have a literal or metaphorical gun to their head.
That said, Ardenweald is for druids, loa, wild gods, etc. I’ve seen Horde there and don’t see the issue. It was fun helping out Bwonsamdi, and it was smart of the Winter Queen not to trust him or get drawn into a power struggle between Loa. She just needed to be shown what was really going on.
I just did the bastion storyline, he helped to defead the house of constructs’s margrave and reclaim part on the maldraxxus lands for the house of the choosen
What are u talking about?
Everyone does what the NPCs say for the loot. It’s not more big brained than that.
It is… entirely relevant as one is culpable, and held responsible for their actions and requires an election to even reach that position, while the other has free reign to behave in any manner they wish as it’s their “birthright”. In this example, Night elven society nurtured and conditioned Azshara into who she became, and did not hold her responsible for her behavior until the world was literally at stake. Even the Blood elves realized the error in a monarchy, and decided there would be no kings or queens.
It’s not anyone else’s fault besides the society that brought her up, and kept her in power regardless of the terrible things she did.
So basically you’re conceding that I’m right, huh? Because my post was in response to someone who was attempting to place the blame solely on the Horde, so somehow me pointing out the hand that an alliance race played in the near destruction of Azeroth is now evidence that I’m bias? Are you even reading?
This is an example of bias, attempting to minimalize, or exaggerate evidence to make your argument seem more compelling. They weren’t 3 Highborne, it was an entire society of Highborne that were welcomed back home, we learn this not only in game, but from the short story where they involved in defending Teldrassil. You can’t point your finger at the Blood elves and say “Oh your distant descendants were involved in the war of ancients! You’re bad!” and then on the same note welcome the VERY same elves who betrayed and likely killed many of your people in the same breath. There’s no “claim to innocence” here, only a mildly amusing attempting at dodging any sense of culpability.
They were STILL Night elves, even with the title of Highborne that doesn’t change anything. It was Night elf society that created them, kept them in power, and did nothing to stop them - how am I going to blame elves were not even alive at the time to the same degree of the elves who were responsible for the creation and development of a society that created a tyrant that nearly ended the world.
Ah the irony over “bias” but makes multiple exaggerative comments that have literally nothing to do with the conversation.
Except the Burning legion would have had no reason to come to Azeroth, or care if it weren’t for the Night elves.
Semantics, you know what I meant.
Tell me something, then. Is the entire Horde then evil and guilty of, not only the Legion returning to Azeroth and the death of many, but also guilty that tons of souls are tortured right now in the Maw?
They put Garrosh in place, they put Sylvanas in place. I assume we can blame the entire Horde for all this, no?
It seems we’re talking two different languages here. Who cares if they were Night Elves? They changed their names to High Elves. The moment they change their names you refer to them as their current name. Or should I call the Blood Elves Kaldorei?
Eh, no. Sargeras knew of Azeroth before because he was told by Aggramar that there was a Titan soul very, very powerful.
The Burning Legion would’ve reached Azeroth eventually, and with no Illidan (Night Elf), Azeroth would’ve been massacred.