Thatâs a very selective read of the lore.
Aside from that, itâs a different Horde Orcs being the only thing they have in common. Plenty of reasons were laid out, not to mention Blood Elf pragmatism established when they allied with the Naga, which may not have been all that different to them then their Alliance with the humans. From what I can tell the main body of high elves never really cared all that much for humans to begin with.
Oh god donât start with them
More troll cheer leading?
Dayum. Give me that last one. Thats beautiful.
Back when I was an Anti, I actually also made this claim too. But the funny thing is, I actually had no proof of this either.
I will say that we have to remmeber the facts here:
-High Elves number are said to be around 10% of the remaining Thalassians at the start of WoW.
-The Encyclopedia in 2006 called the High Elves a disorganized people with no common goals or gatherings. Lo and behold, we get the SC introduced on 2008 during WoTLK as a⊠organization of High Elves with clear goals.
-While we donât know how many they are of that 10%, they are at least as many as to be reocurring through three expansions so far, making them the most represented High Elven group in game.
-The issue of their âtechnical neutralityâ is a non issue when we donât ask most of the other AR to already be part of a faction to be an AR. Regardless, the Silver Covenant has always favored tremendously the alliance beyond a shadow of a doubt.
These are all facts.
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Fair enough.
SC does have a decent number of High Elves being co-ordinated and working together, with similar goals. I donât see how people just like to ignore this.
While also, considering the Warcraft Encyclopedia also was writen by Blizzard as well, it also says that Blood Elves no longer consider themselves High Elves.
iâm not. whatcha talkinâ bout willis
And I certainly agree that most of the High Elven population was in the alliance out of convenience. That does not erase all those high elves that chose to remain on the alliance. if anything, that points out to an even further ideological distance amongst high elves, between the isolationist ones that left the Alliance when the second war was closed, and those who chose to remain living in alliance realms.
But again, if the blood elves can hold a grudge against the whole of humanity because of Garithos unilateral actions, the remaining alliance loyal high elves can still have a grudge against the horde -because they are likely ones that suffered more because of it during the second war, and thus stayed in the alliance-
How is that not fair, and beyond that, understandable?
what did they say? just outta curiosity? any good memes?
Hyper, never knew people were obsessed with you. You must be the most popular Void Elf on the forums
It must because of the charm, well read on lore wit, and kindness. I hope and would like to think, otherwise shame on people mocking others.
Indeed, Iâm mostly pointing out that several points against HEâs were info from the encyclopedia that the later existence of the SC revised. Lore getâs updated, itâs silly to base arguments on older lore when new lore contradicts it.
Only reason the Antiâs donât want alliance to have a race that is with them, because theyâre afraid of it ruining a race that they have already got.
I would say their most valid argument boils down to exclusivity, and why factions should have it over certain races so each faction maintains a distinct aesthetic.
hmm ok. i dont care that you want to play alliance high elves. what you have in your mind regarding them is not what they are. you will NEVER play a traditional high elf on the alliance because that is exactly what blood elves are. it was next to impossible once they joined the horde. it became completely impossible once they added void corrupted high elves to the alliance
and if it was all about the damn lore, you wouldnt be asking for them(lol). this is about the lore in your head, not the lore as it actually is. i am so sorry the two dont agree but the lore as it is trumps the lore as you want to be. sorry to break that to you
10% of the high elves did not join the alliance after the high elves left. a few individuals did. even the dalaran pop, the line goes straight from the high elves who form the core of the sunreavers, who helped humans discover magic to co founding dalaran and being productive citizens for thousands of years, to the only high elves on the council of six identifying as blood elf and being the leaders of that community(kael and aethas). the SC are mostly farstrider exiles united under vereesa(a windrunner) shacking up there and everybody knows it. the only alliance high elves you have claim to are the ones in alliance territory
So that is that. I think I have made the right decision. Farewell.
Apparently not so many left.
Thatâs not my argument, however human high elf relations havenât been just rainbows and butterflies, and that black spot was pretty recent. Itâs a counter-example. Granted Lorderon is technically on the Horde. Before WoW they were willing to ally with the Naga, Thrallâs Horde and their immediate neighbor is by no means a stretch⊠but turning on your homeland because they associate with Orcs and Trolls is something else. Granted, thatâs just one perspective of it - I donât think itâs inaccurate.
I donât think those are things articulated in the lore, but are based on your interpretation of it.
Said the pot to the kettle.
I do kinda agree that with Void Elves and Blood Elves its unlikely that Blizzard will give us High Elves the way we want them. Theyâd become Void Elves most likely so weâd at the very least lose the Paladin class and its gonna be a long while before they give us new customizationâs for ARs.