Thatâs a dictionary definition, not proof that there is a major shift that has changed the culture. And even within one culture things are not monolithic, unless you are dealing with a hive mind type deal where all the individual members of the culture share the exact same thoughts there will be disagreements and unique spins on things.
For blood elf players, Auric joins Lorâthemar and Rommath in congratulating the sinâdorei hero who had restored the blade. He states that now is the time to rally behind the bearer of QuelâDelar and avenge the destruction of their lands, referencing the quelâdorei and sinâdorei collectively as the "children of Silvermoon."
So, what? They are all thalassians, just like void elves are. But they are still sinâdorei and quelâdorei, separate entities.
Umbric also calls the blood elves âour peopleâ in the War Campaign. So I guess void elves are the same race as well?
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So the recognized definition is wrong because you say it dont matter.
THIS is what I mean when I thank people for having such good lore based arguments, was really nice seeing this and I enjoyed reading these Easter eggs
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Yes, exactly, they are all the same thing with different names and an argument on what to do next.
Itâs amazing how they canât cite a single lore source stating high elves are blood elves. Not single instance of a blood elf proudly declaring himself quelâdorei or high elf.
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No, but you havenât proven anything. You linked the dictionary and declared that proved your point.
Barely.
Not even as much as you think they are.
Lol, does 30 High Elves showing up even count as aiding in the war effort when all they do is follow one person in⊠Two encounters? And do next to nothingâor literally nothingâin both of them?
They had to go somewhere, lesâ they be killed for their Void corruption. In addition, that same corruption, and the way they were conducting their business in secret, definitively outlines them as entirely different, especially culturally, from both the High Elves calling themselves High Elf or Blood Elf.
Should listen to your own advice.
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Kaelâthas is wrong.
Lorâthemar is wrong.
Rommath is wrong.
Vereesa is wrong.
The official Warcraft Encyclopedia is wrong.
The official WoW Visual Guide is wrong.
Everyone hail Tarrok, his unbacked opinion trumps lore!
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Youâll find this understanding is commonplace in basically any collegiate level textbooks that deal with the social or political aspects of American history. Itâs well-known that most of the Founding Fathers were vehemently against centralized power â in parliamentary systems, the executive branch is appointed by the legislative branch; in presidential systems, the executive branch is appointed by representative vote or popular vote (in the U.S., itâs the former).
As a rule, parliamentary systems were viewed as inherently more corruptible than presidential systems. You could also just read any of the political commentary made by Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, or Adams â these men were particularly unconcerned with social niceties, and rarely minced their words when it came to decrying the governing style employed by Great Britain.
âThe land of exaggerated opportunityâ is, in this case, the myth. The early years of British colonization were riddled with death, disease, conflict (both with Amerindians and other European powers), starvation, lack of medicine, lack of lodgings, et cetera.
The only thing people coming to North America, in say the first decade or two of concerted colonized efforts, were assured of was that they wouldnât have to fear political or religious suppression from the governing bodies â not specifically because this was codified as law in these early settlements, but because the settlements were the British equivalent to the American West (i.e. little, or no, government at all in the early years).
There were about 170 years between the formation of the first English settlement, and the drafting of the U.S. Constitution â the context of the discussion with Guzzle intones that the period weâd be talking about is the first 10-20 years of that time period.
From the formation of the first permanent settlement (Jamestown, 1607). The first wave of American-born children were of a discernibly different social and political mindset than the children born in the same timeframe in other areas of the British Empire â this owing, completely, to the fact that their parents generation(s) specifically journeyed to North America to disassociate themselves with what they viewed as a corrupt governing institution in Britain.
Some people were displeased with the religious suppression of the British government, others disappointed by the political repression from the British government, others still were simply ideologically opposed to parliamentary systems and/or monarchy in general (i.e most of the Founding Fathers).
Again, this is no different than the first generation of children born into NSDAP-controlled Germany, the first generation of children born into CPSU-controlled Soviet Union, the first generation of children born into CPC-controlled China, so on and so forth.
(Edit: Also âloyalistâ was almost never synonymous with âloves the way government works in Great Britainâ, even in the earliest years. The most commonly held position in areas that would become a part of the United States of America was that it was more beneficial to work with the Crown, than against it â many/most people feared the focused ire of the Crown, and opted to appease the English as often as was possible.
This can be understood by actually reading some of the journals of well-known âloyalistsâ. There is a gradual blurring of the line between people who are culturally American, but politically supportive of the Crown and culturally British (later, culturally Canadian), but politically supporting of the Crown.
The latter grouping is the result of the British government recognizing their disfavor in the southern colonies (i.e. the Thirteen Colonies) and concerting their efforts, in conjunction with other politically-motivated individuals, to incentivize other politically-aligned citizens to leave Britain and sojourn to the more northerly colonies.
TL;DR: Cultural shifts happen extremely quickly, even if theyâre not always profound shifts, typically requiring no more than 1-2 generations of people. How this relates to High Elves is entirely up for debate, considering their lifespan, but there is no question about how it relates to real-world humanity.
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Yes. You should.
When 99% of your other races do no such thing, especially compared to your core races, then yes, it counts.
Just because it doesnât in your eyes doesnât mean it doesnât. Sorry youâre biased.
This is head canon, Void Elves actively still consider themselves Blood elf, and you believe because theyâre now blueberry filled and have 0 lore or story in WoW that makes them culturally distinct from High elves or Blood Elves?
Youâre joking right?
Again, sorry youâre biased.
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Still saying blood elves are high elves?
Dude, you made an argument that there was some massive shift between high elf and blood elf culture that isnât really shown in game (yes, they donât like each other but that doesnât make them a different people)
I asked you to prove your point because you made the assertion so I donât feel I need to do all the work here and pretend you made a valid point with nothing backing it up.
You then did not link to a single bit of information from WoW but instead defined culture and sat back like you did something meaningful.
Who founded and built Ogrimmar again
While the statement of âBlood Elves are High Elvesâ maybe true, the real fact is, Blood Elves no longer consider themselves as High Elves, which means that ever since they renamed themselves to Blood Elves, they are no longer High Elves which means that âBlood Elves are High Elvesâ is a false statement to say.
Because Blood Elves no longer considered themselves as High Elves when they renamed themselves!
Sorry Valarian, didnât mean to reply to you.
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When it is stated by the Developers as a core reason why the Void Elves were made a playable race, it is not even remarkably close to head canon. Go get your facts straight.
Whatâs the price of tea in China?