The High Elf Love Thread đŸ„°

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according to rommaths recollection, the kirin tor was happy enough to stand by and let them all be executed. and that is the only lore we have on the matter. anything else is pointless speculation

void elves are playable because they are distinct from blood elves. high elves are playable as blood elves

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I believe if they were playable they would be horde. I’d have a hard time picturing them on the alliance with their history with the night elves.

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Highborne Party.

The Nelfs do need something other than the silly Shen’dralar.

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All we need is vengeance.

And cake.

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but i’m a high elf. haha.

i just want alliance half elves and access to the new asian and african skins for humans for half elves.

oh and bards. :grin:

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that dungeon journal from Wrath suggests that the Kirin Tor was aware of it, I don’t think it would be seen as a betrayal if they didn’t take part in imprisoning the elves as opposed to say Garithos manning the prison with his own troops.

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To bad he dosnt know what hes talking about in that video. Should stick to his field of expertise. His answer clearly shows that.

Would Recommend everyone who hasnt check out this video it puts the DEVS decision and approach to Alliance High Elves to task.

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His answer definitely comes off as a tad ignorant. Even if the majority of High Elves have assimilated, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t have made Void Elves outa them

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So
 y’all really trying to justify the position of the Kirin Tor
 willing to pass them as incompetent as long as it means they will be “cleansed from sin” because anything human/alliance related can do no wrong
 again?

And you guys complain about the devs giving Horde a pass?

You don’t see the irony here, do you?

Also, I will point out
 even in the passage from Chronicles that was quoted hours ago, the use of the word “unknown” it’s a huge red flag and something so vague that seems like something far too flimsy to build an argument upon.

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“A monumental betrayal,” Rommath said, his voice nearly a whisper. His eyes glittered with seething anger that nearly a decade had failed to quell. “In Dalaran,” he continued, “beneath the ever-watchful eyes of the Kirin Tor.”

“They really had nothing to do with—”

“I assume you mean,” Rommath interrupted, “that the Kirin Tor did nothing. Did nothing to prevent it, did nothing to stop it. And instead”—his voice began to rise—“left us to rot in the prisons beneath a city many of us called home as much as ever we did Silvermoon. A city our own crown prince had served as faithfully as his own homeland for longer than a human lifetime. A city we fought and died for, and at the request of the Kirin Tor. A city within whose walls they would have watched, in silence, as we all swung from a hangman’s noose. Their city.”

We literally know that even in Rommath’s eyes it’s the Kirin Tor’s innaction what caused his bitterness, the presumption they could have stopped it from happening in the two days they were prisoners. Because of his assumption that they should have known and thus have stopped Garithos.

Which is a gameplay issue, not a lore one -as it is with pandaren, same race, on both factions-

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Alliance should’ve gotten High Elves the day Horde got Goblins.

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Why are we even arguing about the Kirin Tor again? We all know that both the Horde and Alliance have a history of bloodshed, Garithos being a terrible human shouldn’t make us feel bad for being Alliance or anything

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I think it all started because someone claimed that the modern Alliance would have tried Garithos for what he did.

And tbh, that actually made me laugh so hard I felt my jaw was about to fall off.

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I mean, guess it depends on which Alliance character we’re talking about. Anduin might if it were to lead to peace

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 and which Alliance, there’s a tendency to conflate the two Hordes, and Alliances. Remember the whole slavery bit?

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I don’t see Anduin calling out Jaina nor Vereesa for what they did in Dalaran.

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What journal from Wrath? Gotta check that out.

But my point is about, let’s say, level of negligence here. How many of the KT knew? Were they High Ranking members? Did they share this information with the rest? Or did they stay silent. The point is that there is a big difference between “The Kirin Tor wilfully let the Blood Elves die” or “Negligence within the group”

Which personally, I think the later makes for a great thematic parallel with the Sunreavers and the Divine Bell.

As such, the point is not “who is right” but whether Rommath and other Blood Elves are justified in their bitterness towards the KT without it having to mean the Kirin Tor was downright evil. It’s about, as usual
 nuance.

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Given the reappearance of the Sun Reavers on the war campaign, I don’t think we’re done with that bit.

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well these are all fictitious events in a fantasy game. the only way to know what the devs intended regarding the kirin tor during the imprisoning of the blood elves, is to ask them point blank.

how were the kirin tor involved? did they deliberately look the other way while garithos imprisoned the blood elves? are they partners in the crime? or did garithos lie to them by bringing up the naga event as a means to paint kael’thas and the blood elves as traitors? since there’s not much there but evidence the kirin tor had access to part of dalaran, the only way to know for sure is to ask the writers. i think he lied to them and made it sound like kael’thas and his belfs were in league with the naga, in a time of war.

i mean it is war time. alot of people are dying. people are absorbed by their own responsibilities in war. there’s not time to hold court hearings when the events are rapidly unfolding.

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